My first Keris.....but is it a good one??

brekele · 13th August 2008, 07:33 PM

I have no idea if this both kerises are including in keris tourist catagory, but the worked of pamor and warangka looks not bad (only quality of kinatah & mendak is a bit disturb). For beginner keris colector .....(like me), this is the best way to begin learning about keris before to go further to collect old ones.
They are looking good on the wall

Marcokeris · 13th August 2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brekele

I have no idea if this both kerises are including in keris tourist catagory, but the worked of pamor and warangka looks not bad (only quality of kinatah & mendak is a bit disturb). For beginner keris colector .....(like me), this is the best way to begin learning about keris before to go further to collect old ones.
They are looking good on the wall

I agree. Pamor Rante and Ron Genduru W. are really well made. But Kinatah (daphur) of these Madura kerises are....horrendous (of course is my opinion).
I don't think they are tourist kerises. I think they are for today indonesian people (indonesian people that don't know well keris culture)....maybe they used them in ceremony like wedding, anniversary ...
In the markets (pasar) is easy to find these kerises. On the contrary their sarongs are sober: usually sarongs are jointed with sparkling pendok pendok full of coloured stones (glass)

katana · 15th August 2008, 02:13 PM

Thank you all for your help and information for me the "Keris Newbie"

The keris has arrived

The blade is 13.5" long, edges are very sharp with definate pamor and is gongo iras. I think the carving is good quality and the blade fits the scabbard 'snugly'. Although the blade is 'real' ...is the pamor / blade of reasonable quality. All comments gratefully received. Thank you

Regards David

Rick · 15th August 2008, 05:33 PM

Well, using Javanese terms the pamor at the sorsoran looks sort of like Beras Wutah; the problem is the pattern is broken down the length of the Wilah .

I do not know what this effect is known as .

IMO a very nice pattern .

Rick

Marcokeris · 15th August 2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by katana

Thank you all for your help and information for me the "Keris Newbie"

The keris has arrived

The blade is 13.5" long, edges are very sharp with definate pamor and is gongo iras. I think the carving is good quality and the blade fits the scabbard 'snugly'. Although the blade is 'real' ...is the pamor / blade of reasonable quality. All comments gratefully received. Thank you

Regards David

I like this pamor (and the blade too)!
How many luks (3 or 5)?
Why gongo iras?

Rick · 15th August 2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcokeris

I like this pamor (and the blade too)
Why gongo iras?

I was wondering the same thing Marco .

Looks seperate from the pictures .

I count 7 luk .

Henk · 15th August 2008, 06:23 PM

Very nice pamor. Balinese blade. Certainly not gonjo iras. It is a seperate gonjo.

David · 15th August 2008, 06:41 PM

Agreed....definitely not gonjo iras. Looks like a nice older blade with a good pamor. I like it!

The hilt actually looks a little better than in the sellers pics, though clearly it is a quick and unrefined job that are usually seen with this type of dress. But it does have deeper carved lines than i expected.

13th August 2008, 07:33 PM	#1
brekele Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 208	I have no idea if this both kerises are including in keris tourist catagory, but the worked of pamor and warangka looks not bad (only quality of kinatah & mendak is a bit disturb). For beginner keris colector .....(like me), this is the best way to begin learning about keris before to go further to collect old ones. They are looking good on the wall Attached Images

15th August 2008, 02:13 PM	#3
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Thank you all for your help and information for me the "Keris Newbie" The keris has arrived The blade is 13.5" long, edges are very sharp with definate pamor and is gongo iras. I think the carving is good quality and the blade fits the scabbard 'snugly'. Although the blade is 'real' ...is the pamor / blade of reasonable quality. All comments gratefully received. Thank you Regards David Attached Images Last edited by katana; 15th August 2008 at 03:46 PM.

15th August 2008, 05:33 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Opinion Well, using Javanese terms the pamor at the sorsoran looks sort of like Beras Wutah; the problem is the pattern is broken down the length of the Wilah . I do not know what this effect is known as . IMO a very nice pattern . Rick

15th August 2008, 06:23 PM	#7
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Very nice pamor. Balinese blade. Certainly not gonjo iras. It is a seperate gonjo.

15th August 2008, 06:41 PM	#8
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Agreed....definitely not gonjo iras. Looks like a nice older blade with a good pamor. I like it! The hilt actually looks a little better than in the sellers pics, though clearly it is a quick and unrefined job that are usually seen with this type of dress. But it does have deeper carved lines than i expected.