Aceh Sikin for coments

Dajak · 8th August 2008, 05:36 AM

Hi Willem internet cafe everywhere here in Sanur Bali

An High rank officer is not only by birth

you can get there by good things you do like killing as much Dutch soldiers

Inlay is most from the start you can see the difference if it is put later on

Ben

asomotif · 8th August 2008, 08:19 AM

Hi Ben,

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good things you do like killing as much Dutch soldiers

The Indonesian sun is getting to your head already

PS. also getting back on Battara's comment :

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Pure gold (or gold mixture 10k or more) were frowned upon by the Prophet as being weak (making men weak). Swassa is 9k and below, about a 1/3 and less gold content and thus not considered gold as such.

Interesting theory.
But Sikin's with crowns are often very elaborate. With 2 or layers of crowns and enamel inlay.
While Sikin's with Suasa are often just showing a simple ring of suasa with some very simple lines. combined with a brass ferule. in crwon shape.

I am afraid even the noblest of the noble are attracted by gold.

Dajak · 8th August 2008, 02:47 PM

Hi Willem you right about the gold

Gold always more than suwasa

And yes I did get sunbrand on my head

Ben

Battara · 9th August 2008, 04:44 AM

Well.....I never said that gold was not used. Even Moro stuff occasionally has gold on it, as in 10k or above. I have a Moro kris with this on it. It was an answer for the tendency away from gold for some.

fernando · 16th August 2008, 12:36 AM

I have just got the Zonneveld book.
He is very definite at mentioning sikins with blades that have gold-wire incrustations which, in this case, are called sikin panjang meutatah.
So this variant his well established in sikin typology.
Further he quotes that the part of the blade where (or when ?) these inlays are done is called sampa.
... i am learning

Fernando

Dajak · 16th August 2008, 12:46 PM

Hi Fernando

I did mentioned before in this forum if you are interested in getting stuff get some books and good information Books are sometimes very important .

Nice that you found out off the sikim inlay the name

I can't remember that anyone has say it on the forum .

Ben

kai · 14th September 2008, 01:39 AM

Here's my rencong with gold inlay, once present crown (triple spikes representing a bamboo shoot), and also the whole hilt tip once covered with gold (as shown by a piece of gold still attached to the damar).

Seems to me that this combination of gold decorations is a genuine Aceh variation. I, for one, like it...

This rencong has seen hard times; I'll post pics when its state of preservation allows to show more details.

Regards,
Kai

14th September 2008, 01:39 AM	#7
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Here's my rencong with gold inlay, once present crown (triple spikes representing a bamboo shoot), and also the whole hilt tip once covered with gold (as shown by a piece of gold still attached to the damar). Seems to me that this combination of gold decorations is a genuine Aceh variation. I, for one, like it... This rencong has seen hard times; I'll post pics when its state of preservation allows to show more details. Regards, Kai Attached Images

8th August 2008, 05:36 AM	#1
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Willem internet cafe everywhere here in Sanur Bali An High rank officer is not only by birth you can get there by good things you do like killing as much Dutch soldiers Inlay is most from the start you can see the difference if it is put later on Ben

8th August 2008, 02:47 PM	#3
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Willem you right about the gold Gold always more than suwasa And yes I did get sunbrand on my head Ben

9th August 2008, 04:44 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,310	Well.....I never said that gold was not used. Even Moro stuff occasionally has gold on it, as in 10k or above. I have a Moro kris with this on it. It was an answer for the tendency away from gold for some.

16th August 2008, 12:36 AM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	I have just got the Zonneveld book. He is very definite at mentioning sikins with blades that have gold-wire incrustations which, in this case, are called sikin panjang meutatah. So this variant his well established in sikin typology. Further he quotes that the part of the blade where (or when ?) these inlays are done is called sampa. ... i am learning Fernando

16th August 2008, 12:46 PM	#6
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Fernando I did mentioned before in this forum if you are interested in getting stuff get some books and good information Books are sometimes very important . Nice that you found out off the sikim inlay the name I can't remember that anyone has say it on the forum . Ben