A rather nice golok

Flavio · 8th August 2008, 12:33 AM

Yep, Lew, seems the same

Flavio · 9th August 2008, 08:15 AM

Hello Henk, can you explain why do you think that the golok could be more recent than the date? From what I can see the general aspect seems quite old, but my eyes are not so well educated...

Thank you

kronckew · 9th August 2008, 10:05 AM

i've seen a few with similar motif, yours seems better executed than mine, which has a number of repairs to the scabbard and a more rudimentary lion grip. not sure how old this one is, metal bands are steel.

Henk · 9th August 2008, 02:28 PM

Flavio,

Although hard to judge from pictures I noticed that the hulu and the scabbard mouth are made from rather new wood and differ from the lower part of the scabbard. To be honest I think an older scabbard part was taken an a new mouth was carved for it to fit this golok. Also the blade has an appearance that reminds me to more recent goloks I've seen.
I don't take the writing on a golok blade very serious. To be honest, older goloks don't have writing on the blade. That's a more recent development.

But it is still an atractive golok.

Flavio · 9th August 2008, 02:38 PM

Thank you Henk for your reply

About the hulu I'm with you it's a recent replecement for the mouth piece.... well I don't know

About the writing I have also this golok that shows a writing and it's really a nice one... what do you think? Could this well done and decorated piece be old as the writing says?

Thanks for the help

FLavio

Flavio · 9th August 2008, 03:13 PM

And this is the one that is not more mine

It's a nice one with well made carvings on horn but the blade is not so good and quite similar to the one that I posted here.

All this just for fun and show pieces and learn

Thank you Henk

Henk · 9th August 2008, 04:05 PM

Flavio,

I'm not an expert on the field of the golok. The mouth piece matches with the hulu. Same dark color and wood structure. Completely different from the rest of the scabbard. That's what I see on the picture.

The Tjikeroe golok is very well executed and seems to have some age. Still the Tjikeroe writing is done for souvenir purposes for, probably in this case, the Dutch soldiers. Writing name of the place and the date is not common on Indonesian blades.

Take a look at this thread about the Tjikeroe swords. Your golok appears there as well.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=tjikeroe

9th August 2008, 02:38 PM	#5
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Thank you Henk for your reply About the hulu I'm with you it's a recent replecement for the mouth piece.... well I don't know About the writing I have also this golok that shows a writing and it's really a nice one... what do you think? Could this well done and decorated piece be old as the writing says? Thanks for the help FLavio Attached Images

9th August 2008, 03:13 PM	#6
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	And this is the one that is not more mine It's a nice one with well made carvings on horn but the blade is not so good and quite similar to the one that I posted here. All this just for fun and show pieces and learn Thank you Henk Attached Images

8th August 2008, 12:33 AM	#1
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Yep, Lew, seems the same

9th August 2008, 08:15 AM	#2
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hello Henk, can you explain why do you think that the golok could be more recent than the date? From what I can see the general aspect seems quite old, but my eyes are not so well educated... Thank you

9th August 2008, 10:05 AM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	i've seen a few with similar motif, yours seems better executed than mine, which has a number of repairs to the scabbard and a more rudimentary lion grip. not sure how old this one is, metal bands are steel.

9th August 2008, 02:28 PM	#4
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Flavio, Although hard to judge from pictures I noticed that the hulu and the scabbard mouth are made from rather new wood and differ from the lower part of the scabbard. To be honest I think an older scabbard part was taken an a new mouth was carved for it to fit this golok. Also the blade has an appearance that reminds me to more recent goloks I've seen. I don't take the writing on a golok blade very serious. To be honest, older goloks don't have writing on the blade. That's a more recent development. But it is still an atractive golok.

9th August 2008, 04:05 PM	#7
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Flavio, I'm not an expert on the field of the golok. The mouth piece matches with the hulu. Same dark color and wood structure. Completely different from the rest of the scabbard. That's what I see on the picture. The Tjikeroe golok is very well executed and seems to have some age. Still the Tjikeroe writing is done for souvenir purposes for, probably in this case, the Dutch soldiers. Writing name of the place and the date is not common on Indonesian blades. Take a look at this thread about the Tjikeroe swords. Your golok appears there as well. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=tjikeroe