Indian/Afghan/Islamic Flintlocks & Mathclocks. Any interest?

Nagawarrior · 20th July 2008, 08:57 PM

Just picked up this Miquelet. Using Firearms of the Islamic world, by Elgood as a reference, I believe this to be a boyliya rifle from Bosnia/Herzegovina. My guesstamate of age would be 19th century. Most of silver facing on the lock is gone. I took a photo of a nice piece of silver, still left on the top of the barrel. I hope Ward will chime in here with his opinion.

TVV · 20th July 2008, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nagawarrior

Just picked up this Miquelet. Using Firearms of the Islamic world, by Elgood as a reference, I believe this to be a boyliya rifle from Bosnia/Herzegovina. My guesstamate of age would be 19th century. Most of silver facing on the lock is gone. I took a photo of a nice piece of silver, still left on the top of the barrel. I hope Ward will chime in here with his opinion.

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Very nice Stephen, you have made me really really envious now. I agree it is Balkan, but I do not think it is Bosnian, but to me it is more likely to be from the Eastern Balkans. Have you attempted etching the barrel? I am 99% sure it is damascus.
Regards,
Teodor

ward · 20th July 2008, 10:58 PM

I have seen this rifle in person at one of the shows.I do not remember what year. The barrell showed no pattern as I recall and there was a lot of recent restoration. the shell circles are new replacements. There should be the little brass and seal wax radiation signs instead. If I recall correctly there was some wod putty work on this also. It is not a bad piece just needs a lot of work

Nagawarrior · 20th July 2008, 11:22 PM

I picked it up over the internet. Probably a mistake. I was hoping I was getting some great deal. You really have to handle pieces to get an idea. My bad. I got the book on firearms and saw mother of pearl used in this area. Thought it could be correct. Most of the mother of pearl have the little brass and wax piece in the center. I also took the dealers word that nothing was missing. Not sure what you mean by work? Is there someone that restores these, and does it add value? Thank you very much Ward.

Atlantia · 20th July 2008, 11:32 PM

Lovely gun NW.
I've always wanted one of those!
I've had flintlocks, matchlocks, PCs and even a wheel-lock european pistol, but never a miquelet.
Whats the muzzle like?

Nagawarrior · 20th July 2008, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlantia

Lovely gun NW.
I've always wanted one of those!
I've had flintlocks, matchlocks, PCs and even a wheel-lock european pistol, but never a miquelet.
Whats the muzzle like?

The muzzle is plain. No flareing or anything. Just a little brass sight piece.

Cerjak · 14th January 2012, 02:35 PM

Hello from France

seems I have the same sardinian miquelet gun than your's .It will be nice if you could more pics from yours.
Do you have the ramod ?
Do you know how old are those sardinain gun
Best regards

Cerjak

14th January 2012, 02:35 PM	#7
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	Sardinian miquelet Gun Hello from France seems I have the same sardinian miquelet gun than your's .It will be nice if you could more pics from yours. Do you have the ramod ? Do you know how old are those sardinain gun Best regards Cerjak Attached Images

20th July 2008, 08:57 PM	#1
Nagawarrior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inland Empire, Southern California USA Posts: 160	Just picked up this Miquelet. Using Firearms of the Islamic world, by Elgood as a reference, I believe this to be a boyliya rifle from Bosnia/Herzegovina. My guesstamate of age would be 19th century. Most of silver facing on the lock is gone. I took a photo of a nice piece of silver, still left on the top of the barrel. I hope Ward will chime in here with his opinion.

20th July 2008, 10:58 PM	#3
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	I have seen this rifle in person at one of the shows.I do not remember what year. The barrell showed no pattern as I recall and there was a lot of recent restoration. the shell circles are new replacements. There should be the little brass and seal wax radiation signs instead. If I recall correctly there was some wod putty work on this also. It is not a bad piece just needs a lot of work

20th July 2008, 11:22 PM	#4
Nagawarrior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inland Empire, Southern California USA Posts: 160	I picked it up over the internet. Probably a mistake. I was hoping I was getting some great deal. You really have to handle pieces to get an idea. My bad. I got the book on firearms and saw mother of pearl used in this area. Thought it could be correct. Most of the mother of pearl have the little brass and wax piece in the center. I also took the dealers word that nothing was missing. Not sure what you mean by work? Is there someone that restores these, and does it add value? Thank you very much Ward.

20th July 2008, 11:32 PM	#5
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Lovely gun NW. I've always wanted one of those! I've had flintlocks, matchlocks, PCs and even a wheel-lock european pistol, but never a miquelet. Whats the muzzle like?