Older Ivory Junggayan Kalis

[David]

Originally Posted by Dajak

Also the most knowledge about krissen was in europe by that time .The most and the best krissen I bilieve are outside Indonesia . and an lot off fake are made by them now . (fake is new made kris sold for old)

I used to have an nice kris collection before I started my Borneo collection .

Rich Indonesian people are buying back their own stuff at the moment on important auctions in Europe

hmmm....i would still like to think that in spite of the fact that many Indonesians have turned away from keris due to the Westernization of their cullture, that the most knowledge about keris always was and is still does reside in Indonesia.
I also would not assume that the best keris are outside of Indonesia. While there is no doubt that many excellent keris were removed from the area years ago i am still fairly certain that a great many superb examples are kept as never-to-be-seen family pusaka or in the hands of Indonesian collectors that don't share their collections with the world at large.

[Dajak]

Originally Posted by David

hmmm....i would still like to think that in spite of the fact that many Indonesians have turned away from keris due to the Westernization of their cullture, that the most knowledge about keris always was and is still does reside in Indonesia.
I also would not assume that the best keris are outside of Indonesia. While there is no doubt that many excellent keris were removed from the area years ago i am still fairly certain that a great many superb examples are kept as never-to-be-seen family pusaka or in the hands of Indonesian collectors that don't share their collections with the world at large.

David tell me one old book Indonesian that make study about the kris

Something like J.E. Jasper en Mas pirngadie

Ben

[David]

Originally Posted by Dajak

David tell me one old book Indonesian that make study about the kris

Something like J.E. Jasper en Mas pirngadie

Ben

Not all great knowledge is accumulated in books....not all knowledge in old books is correct....