MADURA ornamental hilts

brekele · 15th June 2008, 09:59 AM

nice...very nice hilts.

VVV · 15th June 2008, 01:33 PM

Nice hilts as well as interesting thread topic!
Here are two other variations of the Donoriko hilt.
I would love to see more variations of this hilt.

Michael

Marcokeris · 15th June 2008, 02:35 PM

Nice hits Ganja and Michael
Michael some variations (one is ivory,other is timoho kendit,the last is the top of a wood hit from kraton)

VVV · 18th June 2008, 03:09 PM

Thanks for sharing Ganja and Marco!
Somebody else with a variation of this hilt?

Michael

A. G. Maisey · 19th June 2008, 01:11 AM

I possibly may be able to show some other variations, but I have not had the time to look at my Madura hilts, nor to photograph them.

Many years ago a friend who was associated with the kraton in Sumenep told me that hilts bearing the flying horse were Suminep origin, and hilts that bore the crown were Pamekesan origin.

Hilts that bore neither of these symbols could be from anywhere, and were probably the property of people who were not associated with either Suminep or Pamekesan.

A. G. Maisey · 22nd June 2008, 08:25 AM

I have now had time to select a few Madura hilts for posting here. I've had a look at something more than 100 Madura hilts, and I have selected a few that I consider to be a little different to most, in some way or another.
Each hilt is shown in two dimensions and each hilt is the subject of a separate post.

A. G. Maisey · 22nd June 2008, 08:26 AM

Hilt 2

ganjawulung · 23rd June 2008, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Many years ago a friend who was associated with the kraton in Sumenep told me that hilts bearing the flying horse were Suminep origin, and hilts that bore the crown were Pamekesan origin.

Thank you, Rick. Not only cock'c head. Sometimes I see a horse head hilt too. And the ornament bearing figure of flying horse as Alan mentioned, called by maduran: "kuda panolih" (picture below), and also crown ornament in another one...

ganjawulung · 23rd June 2008, 03:08 AM

And this picture below, a contemporary Maduran hilt, a horse-head hilt...

15th June 2008, 01:33 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Nice hilts as well as interesting thread topic! Here are two other variations of the Donoriko hilt. I would love to see more variations of this hilt. Michael Attached Images

15th June 2008, 02:35 PM	#3
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Nice hits Ganja and Michael Michael some variations (one is ivory,other is timoho kendit,the last is the top of a wood hit from kraton) Attached Images

22nd June 2008, 08:25 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,989	I have now had time to select a few Madura hilts for posting here. I've had a look at something more than 100 Madura hilts, and I have selected a few that I consider to be a little different to most, in some way or another. Each hilt is shown in two dimensions and each hilt is the subject of a separate post. Attached Images

22nd June 2008, 08:26 AM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,989	Hilt 2 Attached Images

23rd June 2008, 03:08 AM	#9
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Horse-head Hilt And this picture below, a contemporary Maduran hilt, a horse-head hilt... Attached Images

15th June 2008, 09:59 AM	#1
brekele Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 208	nice...very nice hilts.

18th June 2008, 03:09 PM	#4
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks for sharing Ganja and Marco! Somebody else with a variation of this hilt? Michael

19th June 2008, 01:11 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,989	I possibly may be able to show some other variations, but I have not had the time to look at my Madura hilts, nor to photograph them. Many years ago a friend who was associated with the kraton in Sumenep told me that hilts bearing the flying horse were Suminep origin, and hilts that bore the crown were Pamekesan origin. Hilts that bore neither of these symbols could be from anywhere, and were probably the property of people who were not associated with either Suminep or Pamekesan.