Nigerian, Cameroon stick club

Freddy · 18th May 2008, 05:50 PM

You could always put it on ebay. These sticks are sought after in France and Spain. They usually fetch good prices.

Tim Simmons · 20th May 2008, 05:41 PM

It is here and I have given it a lick over. I think it is quite old and has some appeal to me. Engraved around the thick part with the iron point are the words "AINCIART+ A + LARRESSORE" something about age/status? and weariness? I might keep it. I could turn up a pommel in some seasoned cherry wood that I have.

Maybe somebody has a piece of cow horn they could send to me

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This is an ethnographic weapon by our criteria. I am not a collector of European items but all collections have some oddities.

Sending things over 60cm long outside the UK is expensive unless the item is worth a lot so it may have to stay in the UK.

Freddy can you give dimensions of the pommel.

Well what an Idiot

I have just found that this was made by the famous "Ainciart" family of "Larressore" and looking at this site the pommels can be varried.

http://www.makhila.com/pub-anglais/famille/index.htm

Freddy · 21st May 2008, 04:32 PM

Your piece is far nicer than mine, Tim.

Here are the requested dimensions of the knob :

diameter : 3,7 cm

heigth : 2,1 cm

The lower part of my piece is also engraved with a text, namely :

ETSAIEN BELDURRANAIZ

I have no idea what this means.

Lew · 21st May 2008, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy

Your piece is far nicer than mine, Tim.

Here are the requested dimensions of the knob :

diameter : 3,7 cm

heigth : 2,1 cm

The lower part of my piece is also engraved with a text, namely :

ETSAIEN BELDURRANAIZ

I have no idea what this means.

ETSAIEN BELDURRANAIZ is Basque. Sorry that fact was already established

Lew

Freddy · 21st May 2008, 05:18 PM

I knew that, Lew

I tried to find a translation on the internet, but wasn't very successful. Are there any Basque forum members ?

fernando · 21st May 2008, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy

I knew that, Lew

I tried to find a translation on the internet, but wasn't very successful. Are there any Basque forum members ?

H Freddy
Try and look in the Web for a dictionary in Euskera, which is Basque in their language.
It could be ( could be) that the text in your piece means "ENEMY FRIGHTENER", as ETSAI means enemy and BELDURRARAZI means to frighten.
Fernando

Tim Simmons · 21st May 2008, 08:34 PM

Freddy. I am so glad you like it as I do. Thank you for the dimensions. I am sourcing some cow or sheep's horn to restore the pommel. Mushroom form as yours or like the old ones in the "Ainciart" web site all depending on what I recieve. I think it is worth the bother and with a sprinkle of magic it will be hard to tell it was not an old replacement. I think this comparison is worth serious thought.

20th May 2008, 05:41 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,902	Ethongraphic weapon It is here and I have given it a lick over. I think it is quite old and has some appeal to me. Engraved around the thick part with the iron point are the words "AINCIART+ A + LARRESSORE" something about age/status? and weariness? I might keep it. I could turn up a pommel in some seasoned cherry wood that I have. Maybe somebody has a piece of cow horn they could send to me ? This is an ethnographic weapon by our criteria. I am not a collector of European items but all collections have some oddities. Sending things over 60cm long outside the UK is expensive unless the item is worth a lot so it may have to stay in the UK. Freddy can you give dimensions of the pommel. Well what an Idiot I have just found that this was made by the famous "Ainciart" family of "Larressore" and looking at this site the pommels can be varried. http://www.makhila.com/pub-anglais/famille/index.htm Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 20th May 2008 at 05:55 PM.

21st May 2008, 08:34 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,902	Freddy. I am so glad you like it as I do. Thank you for the dimensions. I am sourcing some cow or sheep's horn to restore the pommel. Mushroom form as yours or like the old ones in the "Ainciart" web site all depending on what I recieve. I think it is worth the bother and with a sprinkle of magic it will be hard to tell it was not an old replacement. I think this comparison is worth serious thought. Attached Images

18th May 2008, 05:50 PM	#1
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	You could always put it on ebay. These sticks are sought after in France and Spain. They usually fetch good prices.

21st May 2008, 04:32 PM	#3
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Your piece is far nicer than mine, Tim. Here are the requested dimensions of the knob : diameter : 3,7 cm heigth : 2,1 cm The lower part of my piece is also engraved with a text, namely : ETSAIEN BELDURRANAIZ I have no idea what this means.

21st May 2008, 05:18 PM	#5
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	I knew that, Lew I tried to find a translation on the internet, but wasn't very successful. Are there any Basque forum members ?