new find (seem like betok)

ferrylaki · 12th May 2008, 02:28 AM

the mendak is a new made brass mendak.
nothing special with this keris.
I just wonderign about the iron...

A. G. Maisey · 13th May 2008, 03:56 AM

That's a nice little keris, Ferry. I don't think we can call it a betok, though. Betok are usually considered to be a bit more broad across. To me, it looks like it might have been made simply as a short keris, or maybe shortened during its life.

I would not be confident to comment of the quality of the iron just from a photograph.

Tell me, can you give us a photo of the top of the gonjo?

ferrylaki · 13th May 2008, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

That's a nice little keris, Ferry. I don't think we can call it a betok, though. Betok are usually considered to be a bit more broad across. To me, it looks like it might have been made simply as a short keris, or maybe shortened during its life.

I would not be confident to comment of the quality of the iron just from a photograph.

Tell me, can you give us a photo of the top of the gonjo?

here we go...
the gonjo part.
This is the best picture I can show to you.

A. G. Maisey · 13th May 2008, 06:52 AM

Sorry Ferry, its not really good enough.

Tell me, is the buntut urang nguceng mati ?

ferrylaki · 13th May 2008, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Sorry Ferry, its not really good enough.

Tell me, is the buntut urang nguceng mati ?

the buntut urang is 3mm wide.

A. G. Maisey · 13th May 2008, 09:13 AM

OK---thanks.

What tangguh do you think it might be?

Its too hard to guess from the pics. Its not a typical form and the proportions are peculiar. If you can lay a supportable tangguh onto it, you might be able to form an opinion as to whether it was made like this, or it has been shortened.

ferrylaki · 13th May 2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

OK---thanks.

What tangguh do you think it might be?

Its too hard to guess from the pics. Its not a typical form and the proportions are peculiar. If you can lay a supportable tangguh onto it, you might be able to form an opinion as to whether it was made like this, or it has been shortened.

I would say its tuban, for the thickness of the keris.
has been shortened??? if only it has been shortened, then it might also been re shape though???

12th May 2008, 02:28 AM	#1
ferrylaki Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 285	the mendak is a new made brass mendak. nothing special with this keris. I just wonderign about the iron...

13th May 2008, 03:56 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	That's a nice little keris, Ferry. I don't think we can call it a betok, though. Betok are usually considered to be a bit more broad across. To me, it looks like it might have been made simply as a short keris, or maybe shortened during its life. I would not be confident to comment of the quality of the iron just from a photograph. Tell me, can you give us a photo of the top of the gonjo?

13th May 2008, 06:52 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Sorry Ferry, its not really good enough. Tell me, is the buntut urang nguceng mati ?

13th May 2008, 09:13 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	OK---thanks. What tangguh do you think it might be? Its too hard to guess from the pics. Its not a typical form and the proportions are peculiar. If you can lay a supportable tangguh onto it, you might be able to form an opinion as to whether it was made like this, or it has been shortened.