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29th April 2008, 02:10 AM
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Yes, didn't we see this hilt form also referenced in a Berber Sabre thread ?
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=berber+sabre |
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29th April 2008, 02:40 AM
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Arms Historian
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Location: Route 66
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Rick, how do you do it!!! Your memory and eye is amazing!!
 That sure is it OK. The blade on the one I had was pretty rough, and it had the guard but no striations. This one is really nice. All the best, Jim |
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29th April 2008, 10:52 PM
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Location: SPAIN
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SPANISH AMERICAN
WOW !!!!
Seems to be a customized ancient colonial sword for Spanish American Campaing.... More info at http://www.catalogacionarmas.com/public/34-Ultramar.pdf A good piece !!!!!!!!! |
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30th April 2008, 01:37 AM
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I cannot help but re-post my earlier ( somewhat embarrassing ) contribution:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4874 I showed another sword with identical markings and a Nimcha marked " Nueva Granada" ( now Colombia). I guess Spanish South American blades did end up in North Africa. |
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30th April 2008, 03:06 AM
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Arms Historian
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Actually that was an excellent contribution Ariel! so cant see why you would be embarrassed.........now when I reread my posts analyzing these ....Cuba, Algeria, Philippines, Balkans, Bedouins etc etc....good grief! I brought in everything but Elvis and UFO's!!! now thats embarrassing
Excellent example that Marc posted there, and I thought your sabre was really an attractive item. OAKSP, excellent item you show here also. It really is amazing how many weapons we have looked at over the years and considered Spanish colonial or North African, and never realized the possibility of Cuba and South America. All the best, Jim |
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30th April 2008, 07:44 AM
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First Impression of a Novice
Hullo everybody,
When I saw the hilt, my first impression was: - European influence: 17thC Clamshell D guard - Yemeni influence: Brass nails/studs - Malay influence: Makara pommel(?) Forgive my ignorance. Best. |
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1st May 2008, 04:29 PM
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Arms Historian
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These were all outstanding deductions! and display reasoning as far from ignorance as can be!!! Every one of those observations has distinct merit. As you can see, these unique weapons have been puzzling many if not most of us for years...I know that I can personally note the ten or more years that I have considered these swords identification inconclusive. All best regards, Jim |
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