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Old 21st April 2008, 04:22 AM   #1
Gonzalo G
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I donīt know much of this weapons, but, do you call "daggers" to the weapons with only one edge blades? It could be a khanjar, but the form of the blade fits better in the recurved type of peshkabz found in India and illustrated by E. Jaiwant in "Arms and Armour. Traditional weapons of India", which are more "triangular" and without any parallel profile lines in the whole blade. But the form of the hilt is more common in khanjars than in peshkabz, the late more usual in a full tang type mounted with scales and rivets in this recurved type. The inscriptions point to a muslim origin. I can be mistaken, but this weapons could be originated in north India or Iran. Somehow the decoration and inscriptions reminds me an irani, or a copy of an irani, style of decoration. Please donīt take too seriously my opinion, as Iīm only an amateur.
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Old 23rd April 2008, 04:34 AM   #2
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I donīt know much of this weapons, but, do you call "daggers" to the weapons with only one edge blades? It could be a khanjar, but the form of the blade fits better in the recurved type of peshkabz found in India and illustrated by E. Jaiwant in "Arms and Armour. Traditional weapons of India", which are more "triangular" and without any parallel profile lines in the whole blade. But the form of the hilt is more common in khanjars than in peshkabz, the late more usual in a full tang type mounted with scales and rivets in this recurved type. The inscriptions point to a muslim origin. I can be mistaken, but this weapons could be originated in north India or Iran. Somehow the decoration and inscriptions reminds me an irani, or a copy of an irani, style of decoration. Please donīt take too seriously my opinion, as Iīm only an amateur.
You're doing great for an 'amateur' Gonzalo! Stepping forward with well thought out observations and referenced support clearly notes that you have advanced from that category though....now you're a student of arms like the rest of us The weapons of N.India were greatly influenced by the arms of Persia, and sometimes difficult to distinguish differences. I am under the impression that recurved blade is characteristic of pesh kabz. The hilt is of khanjhar form ,and possibly jade?

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Old 23rd April 2008, 07:14 AM   #3
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It looks like jade, Jim....beautiful piece. Thank you very much for your kind comments.
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