Keris with strange ( to me ) blade

fernando · 20th April 2008, 10:47 PM

Hi David,
Oh boy, you sure are a master of these things, and i bow before your knowledge

The pesi actually has the remains of a hole in its end.
Further coments are so much welcome ... i'm all ears

Fernando

David · 21st April 2008, 03:03 AM

Yep, that's what i expected to see. I have a very similar keris to this so it's certainly not that i am a "master of these things" (or anything really), just going on what i have seen first hand.

fernando · 22nd April 2008, 10:04 PM

Hi David,
Allright, if you are not a "master", then sure you are a "mister" ( coach, in local soccer lexicon )

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Resuming and according to what i have learnt here and after doing a little Net browsing, namely on glossary:
This piece has a dapur bentok ( curved ) pichit ( finger pressed ) blade.
Its dimensions and charactertistics fit into a talismanic blade.
Probable date XVII century.
Possible provenance Jawa; the hilt ( ukiran ) could be XIX century and is typical from central Jawa, right ?
You mention they are hung in special places of importance; like where ... residential places ? I have read something about hanging them in the house roof central beams; does this make sense ?
I notice that the pesi is a bit bent; this is a fault and not a deliberate situation, right ? i can easily clamp it in a padded vice and unbend it.
Is its pamor easy to tipify ?
Sorry to be such a bore.
Fernando

A. G. Maisey · 22nd April 2008, 10:13 PM

I strongly suggest that you leave the pesi strictly alone.

Do not put it into a vice, nor take to it with a hammer.

Leave as is.

David · 22nd April 2008, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

I strongly suggest that you leave the pesi strictly alone.

Do not put it into a vice, nor take to it with a hammer.

Leave as is.

I definitely agree. It does, however, seem to have a little bit of rust on it which i would take care of if i were you.

fernando · 22nd April 2008, 11:47 PM

Allright, allright

Will just derust it with some penetrating oil.
Thanks for the hints.
Fernando

PenangsangII · 23rd April 2008, 03:41 AM

The bent pesi is quite normal for most kerises - I believe it was deliberately forged that way.

20th April 2008, 10:47 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi David, Oh boy, you sure are a master of these things, and i bow before your knowledge The pesi actually has the remains of a hole in its end. Further coments are so much welcome ... i'm all ears Fernando Attached Images

21st April 2008, 03:03 AM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Yep, that's what i expected to see. I have a very similar keris to this so it's certainly not that i am a "master of these things" (or anything really), just going on what i have seen first hand.

22nd April 2008, 10:04 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi David, Allright, if you are not a "master", then sure you are a "mister" ( coach, in local soccer lexicon ) . Resuming and according to what i have learnt here and after doing a little Net browsing, namely on glossary: This piece has a dapur bentok ( curved ) pichit ( finger pressed ) blade. Its dimensions and charactertistics fit into a talismanic blade. Probable date XVII century. Possible provenance Jawa; the hilt ( ukiran ) could be XIX century and is typical from central Jawa, right ? You mention they are hung in special places of importance; like where ... residential places ? I have read something about hanging them in the house roof central beams; does this make sense ? I notice that the pesi is a bit bent; this is a fault and not a deliberate situation, right ? i can easily clamp it in a padded vice and unbend it. Is its pamor easy to tipify ? Sorry to be such a bore. Fernando

22nd April 2008, 10:13 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	I strongly suggest that you leave the pesi strictly alone. Do not put it into a vice, nor take to it with a hammer. Leave as is.

22nd April 2008, 11:47 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Allright, allright Will just derust it with some penetrating oil. Thanks for the hints. Fernando

23rd April 2008, 03:41 AM	#7
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	The bent pesi is quite normal for most kerises - I believe it was deliberately forged that way.