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Old 12th March 2008, 11:39 AM   #1
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Andy,
interesting that it has a 'chamfered' spine .....so what appears to be the edge (in one of the pictures) is in fact the spine ?

I am sure the scabbard will help help provide further clues


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Old 12th March 2008, 03:43 PM   #2
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this is a kaiken ...not tanto...
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Old 12th March 2008, 05:52 PM   #3
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Hi BerberDagger,
according to this...
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=B...kQ8MZD_Y&hl=en

the difference between a Tanto and Kaiken is how it is worn, if that is the case, the scabbard will probably ID which it is

Could it also be considered to be an 'Aikuchi' another guardless Tanto type knife?

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Old 12th March 2008, 06:32 PM   #4
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Andy,
interesting that it has a 'chamfered' spine .....so what appears to be the edge (in one of the pictures) is in fact the spine ?

I am sure the scabbard will help help provide further clues


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No David thats the blade edge, the raised spine is on the other side!

Cleaning rust of Japanse tang destroys any value, but luckily that doesnt look like a japanese made tang anyway.

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Old 12th March 2008, 07:06 PM   #5
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No David thats the blade edge, the raised spine is on the other side!

Cleaning rust of Japanse tang destroys any value, but luckily that doesnt look like a japanese made tang anyway.

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I dont aggree , nakago on japanese sword must be original , with old patina and untouch...if you polish nakago blade less much value...nakago is ok..

this "tanto" is little value becouse blade is much rust, I think that hamon dont esc olso with a good togi...

Andy , have you spend much for this?
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Old 12th March 2008, 08:09 PM   #6
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No David thats the blade edge, the raised spine is on the other side!

Cleaning rust of Japanse tang destroys any value, but luckily that doesnt look like a japanese made tang anyway.

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Hi Jonathon,
thanks for clearing that one up.

I am also wondering whether this composite could have been made up by non Japanese. I thinking perhaps captured/found/broken Japanese weapons in ex-occupied countries/islands,(WW2 ? ) put together by local inhabitants ... just a thought

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Old 12th March 2008, 08:29 PM   #7
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That I realy dont know David, just going on what I can see.

I realy must get a new crystal ball.

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Old 12th March 2008, 11:31 PM   #8
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... but luckily that doesnt look like a japanese made tang anyway ...

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That so ?
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Old 13th March 2008, 12:20 AM   #9
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Not to me, no, definatly not, ive only seen many old handmade & more recent Gendaito ninhonto though, & although with this one the circular grinder marks might be from the clean up of rust? But somehow I dont think so....

But the bits of forge scale, poor shaping etc. lack of file marks [other than circular grinder,] etc,etc. i find impossible to belive as japanese. But I am always happy to learn.

Rich Stein is a member here who I am certain could tell you {& I] exactly.

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