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I don't know Alan, i see this particular type of Bali "tourist" dress quite often on ePray. I agree that the carving is not good, but frankly i have seen much worse for this type.
I am also a bit confused that you would refer to this as a "genuine Balinese Tourist Keris". Obviously this is so for the dress, but the blade isn't what i would think to be deemed "tourist" quality, though it is, as noted, unfortunately missing it's gonjo. I have often seen in this style dress the blades cut from blanks that then have a fake pamor painted on them. That would seem to me to be the ultimate in genuine "tourist" variety. ![]() ![]() Fernando, i am sorry that you feel that you must now buy this keris. If the gonjo was intact and the price was right you could consider re-dressing this keris. As is i would probably pass on it if i could. ![]() |
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Thank you Alan, for your sincerity.
Thank you David, for your support. I will try and get rid of the thing; even if have to pay it or partly pay it, i will push it back to the guy. Comparing to the quality i now know it is of, the broken little parts, which i have glued back, will not diminish its intrinsic value. All the best Fernando |
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Yeah David, there are a lot of them around, and they were put together specifically for tourists, which makes them a genuine tourist item.
The early ones used genuine old blades, which were sometimes pretty fair. I think it might have been during the 1980's that the pieces of acid-etched flat-iron started to appear, I don't seem to remember that stuff from the 1960's and 1970's. The etched flat-iron, the old genuine blades, the current era better quality blades, are only something to hang the carving on, which is what the tourists buy--- all they really want is a holiday memento to hang on the wall, and 99.9% of these people couldn't tell the difference between a real blade and etched flat-iron anyway. You're right of course, there are examples of this type that are infinitely worse than this one, but there are a few that are of superior quality workmanship. This one is just somewhere in the middle, which in my opinion makes it pretty poor. If you're committed to it Fernando, you could make a gonjo for it, and try to do something about reasonable dress, but depending on how much you need to pay for this keris, that might not be economically viable, as it could finish up costing more than its worth. |
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Now that i am disenchanted, i don't feel i will keep it in any condition. Besides, it doesn't make much sense to try and save this piece, being the first one i would owe and having no specific reason to do it. Besides, there are no specialists over here and its price it not so famous. I notice there is a nice ( authentic ) kris at the swap forum which, given the dollar low ratio, costs even less than this funny thing.
No doubt it was a bad move from my side. Fernando |
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Don't let it worry you Fernando---you should see some of the mistakes I made when I was learning. I reckon I could pay for three Phd.'s with what I blew on errors in my early days. Bad buys are just part of the learning experience---but if nobody ever tells us we've made a mistake, we never learn.
The approach of paying the owner compensation for any damage you might have done could well be your wisest move, if you are permitted to do that. |
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There is a Spanish saying: what starts wrong, ends well.
I have returned the piece to the guy ... no compensation for the ( little) damage and no bad feelings ... as he insisted in saying so. What a relief ... i am a bit maniac with this kind of problems. Thank you all for your support. Fernando |
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Sometimes we win, Fernando, sometimes we win.
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