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I just want to pass some additional info that I got from a friend (I hope I translate the message correctly): 'Kocet' in certain Balinese region and also in Sasak (Lombok) means 'small'. In another Balinese area, it refer to a sound of a dry hinge. This explain that kocetkocetan bug also having the ability to made similar noise. In Lombok version, kocetkocetan hilt derived/inspired by the a water bug called 'kenciut' that usually live in rice field. People of these area regard the bug as symbol of prosperity (for the farmers); as it possibly means that the land is fertile, etc - maybe Fearn can confirm this. That is the reason that mostly kocet2an appear in glamourous fashion, to show prosperity. Thanks! |
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Hi Tunggulametung,
Interesting idea, and I'll look into it. In general, water bugs are predators (as are dragonflies), and their natural prey would be other insects and snails that eat the rice crop. In that sense, a good population of water bugs in a rice field could be good luck for the farmer. F |
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Interesting... thanks tunggulametung and fearn...
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Page 118 of the new book : The Kris, a passion from Indonesia from Jean Greffioz, gives the following explanation:
The kocet-kocetan style hilt(called kusia in Lombok) were traditionnaly used by priests and religious leaders, and matched with serengatan or sampiran type krisses. The symbolism of these hilts is mysterious and in spite of its appearance, the stylized animal figured on the hilt is not a horse but would represent a beetle. However, some authors are interprating the horse head as a reminiscence of kuda panoleh from Madura, which make senseas the 2 cultures developed simultaneously from Majapahit era. |
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Hi all,
Looking into Ensiklopedi Keris (see picture attached, from pg. 250). For some hilts, the head does look like a horse. The texts explained that it's a horse head. Based on examples posted here, there seems to be those that looks like horse head and some that's clear cut a bug-like head. Could there a hilt transformation, from the bug-like head into into a horse head? Or could it be, the case where later craftsman, carved hilts without knowledge of the symbolism attached? Or is there two hilt forms with different head type, a bug and a horse? Btw, there is a famous keris with a kocet-kocetan hilt, Keris Ki Puspa Wijaya. (see Pusaka Keris, Vol 07-08/2007, pg.61). |
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Here's another kocet-kocetan hilt from Zonneveld's, Traditional weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago, Pg. 67. The head is also horse-like.
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Here is maybe a cousin from Madura (next to a regular K-K)?
Does anyone know what kind of bug it is and if there is any symbolic relationship? It looks a bit like the no 2 in Nieuwenkamp? Michael |
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This is my Kocet Kocetan , made of black kerbau horn
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