S.E. Asian dagger, help please.

CharlesS · 6th February 2008, 04:21 AM

The hilt style here is almost identical to that of a Malay parang ginah.

Dajak · 6th February 2008, 05:17 AM

I think Charles is the most right at this point off the handle

Ben

Tim Simmons · 12th February 2008, 07:04 PM

I have this little knife now. It is very pretty. As far as I know my boozing mates are not in any immediate danger so I can safely say this dagger is worth more than a couple of nights out with them, they do not have any interest in what I collect but who wants to be Billy NO MATES. I have run out of strong day light so the flash is on and I will try better pics as soon as possible. This is only the blade made of many layers. I could suggest with a discrete whisper that the horn of the handle is the "R" word but that will have to wait for day light. I have sorted out the ring on the pommel. The hole locates on to a peg in the horn. Until more time.

Rick · 12th February 2008, 08:13 PM

Tim, is the base of the spearhead a seperate piece from the blade ?

Tim Simmons · 13th February 2008, 08:48 PM

Rick it is one forged piece. The reason I suspect the horn may be "R" horn is because the handle is a solid piece of horn turn from a much larger lump. As far as I know bovine horn is hollow? the tip may indeed be solid but I also think it is not bovine by the fibrous and fleck structure. Unfortunately I am not clever enough with domestic resources to show this in a picture. I feel quite sure especially when I compere to other Buffalo horn, I could be wrong of course. There is a little damage to the horn on the scabbard, just okay with some glue. I do not think it is one of those rare Dohong knives. Just a nice quallity dagger. It is strange how one persons pictures can differ so much from another. Here are some more pictures of the blade.

Henk · 14th February 2008, 07:07 PM

Very nice. Well done!!

Tim Simmons · 15th February 2008, 06:36 PM

Thank you Henk.

I have read all the archive threads on the Dohong. I would like to open this can of worms again. Lets not fight about it, as far as I have read nobody has any really conclusive information except for VANDOO even if his pictures are of Naga spears. I do not really care either way if it is or is not. However I always like to discuss items when there is a general belief that there is only one shape and especially if that shape is in a book and becomes a biblical law for collectors .
All I know is that I have bought an old dagger. I can see no reason it is not 19th century. So what stops it from being a Dohong it certainly has that form?

12th February 2008, 08:13 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,378	Tim, is the base of the spearhead a seperate piece from the blade ? Last edited by Rick; 13th February 2008 at 12:07 AM.

6th February 2008, 04:21 AM	#1
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	The hilt style here is almost identical to that of a Malay parang ginah.

6th February 2008, 05:17 AM	#2
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	I think Charles is the most right at this point off the handle Ben

12th February 2008, 07:04 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,927	I have this little knife now. It is very pretty. As far as I know my boozing mates are not in any immediate danger so I can safely say this dagger is worth more than a couple of nights out with them, they do not have any interest in what I collect but who wants to be Billy NO MATES. I have run out of strong day light so the flash is on and I will try better pics as soon as possible. This is only the blade made of many layers. I could suggest with a discrete whisper that the horn of the handle is the "R" word but that will have to wait for day light. I have sorted out the ring on the pommel. The hole locates on to a peg in the horn. Until more time.

13th February 2008, 08:48 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,927	Rick it is one forged piece. The reason I suspect the horn may be "R" horn is because the handle is a solid piece of horn turn from a much larger lump. As far as I know bovine horn is hollow? the tip may indeed be solid but I also think it is not bovine by the fibrous and fleck structure. Unfortunately I am not clever enough with domestic resources to show this in a picture. I feel quite sure especially when I compere to other Buffalo horn, I could be wrong of course. There is a little damage to the horn on the scabbard, just okay with some glue. I do not think it is one of those rare Dohong knives. Just a nice quallity dagger. It is strange how one persons pictures can differ so much from another. Here are some more pictures of the blade.

14th February 2008, 07:07 PM	#6
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Very nice. Well done!!

15th February 2008, 06:36 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,927	Thank you Henk. I have read all the archive threads on the Dohong. I would like to open this can of worms again. Lets not fight about it, as far as I have read nobody has any really conclusive information except for VANDOO even if his pictures are of Naga spears. I do not really care either way if it is or is not. However I always like to discuss items when there is a general belief that there is only one shape and especially if that shape is in a book and becomes a biblical law for collectors . All I know is that I have bought an old dagger. I can see no reason it is not 19th century. So what stops it from being a Dohong it certainly has that form?