Bullets and blades

Spunjer · 19th March 2005, 01:29 PM

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I am no expert... here is my two cents worth. It appears the blade was backed by wood (like a 2X4) and shot with a rifle round (due to the kinetics and caliber, I think a 1911 would ding or shatter the blade before penetration... too big - too slow). It definitely appears to have been done deliberately (not due to combat... its too clean). I hope I did not spend more than my two cents.

bsmstar, i concur with you. i'm not much of a ballistic expert, but when i was in the army, i saw a demo where a kevlar helmet was shot with both a 45cal and an m-16. on the 45, the helmet was knocked off but barely made any damage, while the m-16, the helmet barely moved, but it went right thru (perfectly round hole on the entry, like the barong pictured above, while the back looked like shredded spaghetti...).

Yannis · 19th March 2005, 02:12 PM

Tom,
I agree with any word you wrote, except the “nomad smith”. This is 19th – early 20th century Caucasian shashka and there were well established smiths

I dint mean really throw to the garbage but throw back to the scrap material.

BSMStar · 21st March 2005, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunjer

bsmstar, i concur with you. i'm not much of a ballistic expert, but when i was in the army, i saw a demo where a kevlar helmet was shot with both a 45cal and an m-16. on the 45, the helmet was knocked off but barely made any damage, while the m-16, the helmet barely moved, but it went right thru (perfectly round hole on the entry, like the barong pictured above, while the back looked like shredded spaghetti...).

Hi Spunjer,

I have had similar experiences...

At point of impact, there isn't any contour at entry (its not concave) so I have to assume that is was reinforced or backed. On exit, it shredded the steel (a lot of kinetics for clean entry- jagged exit on forged steel), not done by a slower pistol round. The hole is perpendicular, not that common of an event in a random world of combat... I would expect to see some angle to the entry (unless it was "lined up"), which made me take a closer look. But maybe I've been watching too much CSI.

19th March 2005, 02:12 PM	#2
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	Tom, I agree with any word you wrote, except the “nomad smith”. This is 19th – early 20th century Caucasian shashka and there were well established smiths I dint mean really throw to the garbage but throw back to the scrap material.