ID need of man with spear

Jim McDougall · 16th December 2007, 04:08 AM

Wouldn't the spear he's holding be a good clue?
Could he be Igorot?

Battara · 17th December 2007, 04:25 PM

Acutally I would not even say Philippines. The spear is not Igorot and this is definately not Moro.

Jim McDougall · 18th December 2007, 05:48 AM

Obviously I was guessing Jose

So where do you suppose this guy is from?
Jim

t_c · 18th December 2007, 08:13 PM

I think the scarification is the clue. I'm voting New Guinea...

http://www.amonline.net.au/bodyart/scarring/papua.htm

katana · 18th December 2007, 08:40 PM

The spear head is similar to PNG types .... (assuming it is wooden, difficult to tell from the photo)

David

Nonoy Tan · 19th December 2007, 11:21 AM

This type of scarification is found in many parts of the globe e.g. Papua New Guinea, the Philippines, Indonesia, etc. I believe that each peoples or "tribe" would have a unique set of designs. I did not find the same design in the PNG website, so more clues are needed.

The spear design is new to me and may or may not be an original design from peoples inhabiting the Southern Philippines, or Sumatra, etc. - before the influence of the moros took hold (I am guessing).

Does anybody have samples of 19th century Sumatra spears? How about 19th century PNG spears?

Bill · 19th December 2007, 11:41 AM

Don't forget Negrito from Thailand but I'd guess Southern Philippines because of the "Moro". The spear seems "Naga" like but not a match for anything I've seen.

16th December 2007, 04:08 AM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,456	Wouldn't the spear he's holding be a good clue? Could he be Igorot?

17th December 2007, 04:25 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,308	Acutally I would not even say Philippines. The spear is not Igorot and this is definately not Moro.

18th December 2007, 05:48 AM	#3
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,456	Obviously I was guessing Jose So where do you suppose this guy is from? Jim

18th December 2007, 08:13 PM	#4
t_c Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: ca, usa Posts: 92	I think the scarification is the clue. I'm voting New Guinea... http://www.amonline.net.au/bodyart/scarring/papua.htm

18th December 2007, 08:40 PM	#5
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	The spear head is similar to PNG types .... (assuming it is wooden, difficult to tell from the photo) David

19th December 2007, 11:21 AM	#6
Nonoy Tan Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 293	This type of scarification is found in many parts of the globe e.g. Papua New Guinea, the Philippines, Indonesia, etc. I believe that each peoples or "tribe" would have a unique set of designs. I did not find the same design in the PNG website, so more clues are needed. The spear design is new to me and may or may not be an original design from peoples inhabiting the Southern Philippines, or Sumatra, etc. - before the influence of the moros took hold (I am guessing). Does anybody have samples of 19th century Sumatra spears? How about 19th century PNG spears?

19th December 2007, 11:41 AM	#7
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	Don't forget Negrito from Thailand but I'd guess Southern Philippines because of the "Moro". The spear seems "Naga" like but not a match for anything I've seen.