Philippine Bowie info requested

Battara · 25th November 2007, 09:11 PM

Ok, I'll say later in agreement and definitely Luzon. I like the work on the butt end. I wonder if it could be a later Pampangan piece -

Robert · 25th November 2007, 09:21 PM

I would definitely like to see a better picture of the butt cap. Very nice work from what can be seen.

Robert

RobT · 26th November 2007, 01:33 AM

Hi All,
Yeah, the butt cap is as nice as the photo is lousy. I'll try to get a better shot on Monday. By the way, the work on the ferrule is really good also since the hilt was carved away to match the scalloped edges of the ferrule so that the metal is flush with the horn. Whoever MG was, he wanted good work.
Sincerely,
RobT

RobT · 26th November 2007, 11:55 PM

Hi Robert,
Here's a clear photo of the butt cap. It's too bad that the flash washed out the patina. In reality, the butt cap is a mellow gold color with a hint of verdigris. You know, in a way the hilt looks like a reinterpretation of a Balinese Bondolan keris hilt. If the piece is indeed Pampangan work its Indonesian roots might be showing.
Sincerely,
RobT

Battara · 27th November 2007, 01:44 AM

Here is an example of my tabak from Pampangas - though it is pre-1900. Note the similarities of the hilt to your own.

Robert · 27th November 2007, 05:25 AM

Rob,
Very nice work on the butt plate and over all nice addition to your collection.. Now if I have this right this piece is probable third quarter 20th century, Luzon and possible a late Pampangan piece?
Jose, as usual your tabak is a beautiful example and with the original scabbard I'm jealous!

Robert

Battara · 27th November 2007, 10:37 PM

I would agree with your summary Robert and thank you - I got it long ago with another piece that I sold (again long ago). Interesting enough for me to keep for while......

26th November 2007, 01:33 AM	#3
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 535	This week for Butt cap Hi All, Yeah, the butt cap is as nice as the photo is lousy. I'll try to get a better shot on Monday. By the way, the work on the ferrule is really good also since the hilt was carved away to match the scalloped edges of the ferrule so that the metal is flush with the horn. Whoever MG was, he wanted good work. Sincerely, RobT

26th November 2007, 11:55 PM	#4
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 535	Butt Cap Photo Hi Robert, Here's a clear photo of the butt cap. It's too bad that the flash washed out the patina. In reality, the butt cap is a mellow gold color with a hint of verdigris. You know, in a way the hilt looks like a reinterpretation of a Balinese Bondolan keris hilt. If the piece is indeed Pampangan work its Indonesian roots might be showing. Sincerely, RobT Attached Images

27th November 2007, 01:44 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Here is an example of my tabak from Pampangas - though it is pre-1900. Note the similarities of the hilt to your own. Attached Images

25th November 2007, 09:11 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Ok, I'll say later in agreement and definitely Luzon. I like the work on the butt end. I wonder if it could be a later Pampangan piece -

25th November 2007, 09:21 PM	#2
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	I would definitely like to see a better picture of the butt cap. Very nice work from what can be seen. Robert

27th November 2007, 05:25 AM	#6
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Rob, Very nice work on the butt plate and over all nice addition to your collection.. Now if I have this right this piece is probable third quarter 20th century, Luzon and possible a late Pampangan piece? Jose, as usual your tabak is a beautiful example and with the original scabbard I'm jealous! Robert

27th November 2007, 10:37 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I would agree with your summary Robert and thank you - I got it long ago with another piece that I sold (again long ago). Interesting enough for me to keep for while......