Moro Ivory Kampilan

kino · 23rd November 2007, 02:53 PM

It's a nice one. I also have been eyeballin this in Bill's website for quite a while.

Boars hair???, isn't that sacrilegious??

Bill M · 23rd November 2007, 04:16 PM

Yeah, I looked at it also when we were in San Francisco. Nice piece. Was trying to make up my mind. Since I missed it, very glad that you were the one to get it.

Battara · 24th November 2007, 07:33 PM

Many thanks folks -

Sultan's piece - I wondered. Thank you Wilked for sharing this with your friends....

Kino - I have seen boar's hair on many PI pieces, though you may still have a point (like the one on my head

) - this may require more research and inquiry....

Bill - thank you - this was one that I thought I would never be able to afford, until I sold some of my collection off...

This was the better choice..

Bill M · 24th November 2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

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Bill - thank you - this was one that I thought I would never be able to afford, until I sold some of my collection off...

This was the better choice..

Better than "better." Call it BEST!

Ian · 26th November 2007, 06:11 PM

As Battara mentioned, he and I had a chance to discuss this beautiful sword before he took the plunge and purchased it for a substantial amount.

Like Dan W., I felt it was probably a piece from a Sultan's collection. The only similar kampilan I have seen is in the the Philippines National Museum (a picture apears in Cato of that particular sword), and Battara's kampilan is no less impressive than the national treasure in Manila that came from the Lake Lanao region of Mindanao (a Maranao area).

It was my strong suggestion to Battara that he do whatever it took to acquire this sword, as he would likely never have another opportunity to own such a magnificant piece. Perhaps my pleading had nothing to do with the outcome, but I am delighted that he went ahead and secured it. IMO this is a 19th C. kampilan that was refitted with a new handle and ornaments in the mid-20th C.

This would have made a magnificent "bearing sword" carried by a member of the Sultan's/Datu's court during official events. A symbol of great wealth and prestige. I hope that one day Battara will discover its distinguished former owner.

Congrats again, my friend, on a wonderful buy.

Ian.

Lew · 26th November 2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian

As Battara mentioned, he and I had a chance to discuss this beautiful sword before he took the plunge and purchased it for a substantial amount.

Ian.

Hey Battara since you had to sell your house to buy the sword you should not be too upset I can put you up in my house for a while but you will have to let me hang the sword up during your stay

I agree that is a national treasure and I am happy for you.Thanks for sharing.

Lew

Battara · 27th November 2007, 01:53 AM

Thanks Louis - I may have to take you up on that.

I am pleased that this may have belonged to a sultan. Unfortunately the previous owner and the owner before that did not know where it came from.

Again, thank you Ian - this was my Christmas present to me.

26th November 2007, 06:11 PM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Nicer than nice ... As Battara mentioned, he and I had a chance to discuss this beautiful sword before he took the plunge and purchased it for a substantial amount. Like Dan W., I felt it was probably a piece from a Sultan's collection. The only similar kampilan I have seen is in the the Philippines National Museum (a picture apears in Cato of that particular sword), and Battara's kampilan is no less impressive than the national treasure in Manila that came from the Lake Lanao region of Mindanao (a Maranao area). It was my strong suggestion to Battara that he do whatever it took to acquire this sword, as he would likely never have another opportunity to own such a magnificant piece. Perhaps my pleading had nothing to do with the outcome, but I am delighted that he went ahead and secured it. IMO this is a 19th C. kampilan that was refitted with a new handle and ornaments in the mid-20th C. This would have made a magnificent "bearing sword" carried by a member of the Sultan's/Datu's court during official events. A symbol of great wealth and prestige. I hope that one day Battara will discover its distinguished former owner. Congrats again, my friend, on a wonderful buy. Ian.

23rd November 2007, 02:53 PM	#1
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,018	It's a nice one. I also have been eyeballin this in Bill's website for quite a while. Boars hair???, isn't that sacrilegious??

23rd November 2007, 04:16 PM	#2
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Yeah, I looked at it also when we were in San Francisco. Nice piece. Was trying to make up my mind. Since I missed it, very glad that you were the one to get it.

24th November 2007, 07:33 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Many thanks folks - Sultan's piece - I wondered. Thank you Wilked for sharing this with your friends.... Kino - I have seen boar's hair on many PI pieces, though you may still have a point (like the one on my head ) - this may require more research and inquiry.... Bill - thank you - this was one that I thought I would never be able to afford, until I sold some of my collection off... This was the better choice..

27th November 2007, 01:53 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Thanks Louis - I may have to take you up on that. I am pleased that this may have belonged to a sultan. Unfortunately the previous owner and the owner before that did not know where it came from. Again, thank you Ian - this was my Christmas present to me.