Three "Datu Panabas/es"

RSWORD · 11th November 2007, 02:06 AM

A most lovely group of Panabai!

Ferguson · 11th November 2007, 08:57 AM

Charles?
Wow.
Those are incredible.

Steve

carlos · 11th November 2007, 02:30 PM

CONGRATULATIONS!!! TRERE ARE A VERY BEATIFUL PANABAS!! YOU ARE A LUCKY MAN!!
BEST REGARDS
CARLOS

Tim Simmons · 11th November 2007, 06:17 PM

Super things. Another thing I need so badly

VVV · 11th November 2007, 06:31 PM

Congratulations Charles!

Three top pieces. I wonder if no 3 was inspired from the Japanese?
I haven't seen anything like it before.
Is the tsuba as old as the rest of the panabas, based on the patina?

Michael

Battara · 11th November 2007, 07:07 PM

I have seen the bottom one before - I also wonder if the fittings are later - the style and type of brass work make me lean in this direction. The blade is the rarer form though.

The top one is amazing! My panabas is laminated, but I have never seen a twist core panabas before - truly a datu class probably carried by a body guard of a high datu or sultan. Like the steel fittings on it.

The middle one looks fun too - again a datu class piece in the brass fittings. Are the white bands aluminum or silver?

You know, if you plan to toss any of these in garbage, I'll be happy to clean up the mess.

CharlesS · 11th November 2007, 09:52 PM

Thanks guys.

VVV....I agree it is one odd panabas, but the patina is the same throughout. I cannot figure out the metal addition to the 'tsuba'. At first I thought it was a repair, but as you look at the way it was clamped on there is nothing broken there, almost as if it originally had a opening, and the maker then decided it was a bad idea.

Battara....I think there is far too much patina on #3 to be too late, though I agree it is one odd bird. All parts seem "born together", and it's all solid. PT polished the blade and was rather impressed by it. The rattan has that "honey-toned" patina that you see on the older kriss hilts and scabbards.

11th November 2007, 02:06 AM	#1
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,086	A most lovely group of Panabai!

11th November 2007, 08:57 AM	#2
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Charles? Wow. Those are incredible. Steve

11th November 2007, 02:30 PM	#3
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 748	OHHH!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! TRERE ARE A VERY BEATIFUL PANABAS!! YOU ARE A LUCKY MAN!! BEST REGARDS CARLOS

11th November 2007, 06:17 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Super things. Another thing I need so badly

11th November 2007, 06:31 PM	#5
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Congratulations Charles! Three top pieces. I wonder if no 3 was inspired from the Japanese? I haven't seen anything like it before. Is the tsuba as old as the rest of the panabas, based on the patina? Michael

11th November 2007, 07:07 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I have seen the bottom one before - I also wonder if the fittings are later - the style and type of brass work make me lean in this direction. The blade is the rarer form though. The top one is amazing! My panabas is laminated, but I have never seen a twist core panabas before - truly a datu class probably carried by a body guard of a high datu or sultan. Like the steel fittings on it. The middle one looks fun too - again a datu class piece in the brass fittings. Are the white bands aluminum or silver? You know, if you plan to toss any of these in garbage, I'll be happy to clean up the mess.

11th November 2007, 09:52 PM	#7
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Thanks guys. VVV....I agree it is one odd panabas, but the patina is the same throughout. I cannot figure out the metal addition to the 'tsuba'. At first I thought it was a repair, but as you look at the way it was clamped on there is nothing broken there, almost as if it originally had a opening, and the maker then decided it was a bad idea. Battara....I think there is far too much patina on #3 to be too late, though I agree it is one odd bird. All parts seem "born together", and it's all solid. PT polished the blade and was rather impressed by it. The rattan has that "honey-toned" patina that you see on the older kriss hilts and scabbards.