"regular" VOC sword or ethnograpical object?

Mytribalworld · 18th October 2007, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

try google "Dutch interests West Africa"

Hi Tim,

you have any specific site in mind?

more leopard pics should be welcome!

regards,

Arjan.

Tim Simmons · 18th October 2007, 07:27 PM

No specific site. Just to show how active the Dutch were in early 19th century West Africa yet she never took full colonial control as the French, British and Germans did.

Besides often secret leopard cults of which some could be the dirty hand of the state. The leopard is also a symbol of authority. The leopard on your sword handle is wonderfully compact and so monumental for such a small carving. Here is another stool, Bamileke which is not the trade coast but still shows the same style of expression.

Dajak · 20th October 2007, 05:59 AM

Hi Tim don't forget that south African languae is like old Dutch and that Kaap de goede Hoop was long in Dutch hands so I think we stayed long enough there that they do talk today or languae .
It is not to be proud off but we also the first that bring the slave s to America in the KIT museum in amsterdam is still the original books from the period that tells how much slave s they take on board off the ship and how many survived the trip and how much they make .
So I think the Dutch had an big influence in the South part off Africa .

The Dutch written history did start in 1652 at that moment did Jan van Riebeeck make an harbourstation at Kaap the Goede Hoop (Dutch name) he was working for the VOC
the part with Dutch kolonisten did get slowy bigger in the 17 and 18 century till east till the Visrivier .
In 1795 the brittisch take control give it back in 1803 .
And take it over again in 1806Then ther was some trouble about compensation stopping the slavery and Dutch kolonisten (also german ) known as Boeren did get away in the years 1830-1840 .
They make different state s like the Oranjevrijstaat and Transvaal.

Ben

18th October 2007, 07:27 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	No specific site. Just to show how active the Dutch were in early 19th century West Africa yet she never took full colonial control as the French, British and Germans did. Besides often secret leopard cults of which some could be the dirty hand of the state. The leopard is also a symbol of authority. The leopard on your sword handle is wonderfully compact and so monumental for such a small carving. Here is another stool, Bamileke which is not the trade coast but still shows the same style of expression. Last edited by Tim Simmons; 18th October 2007 at 08:18 PM.

20th October 2007, 05:59 AM	#3
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Tim don't forget that south African languae is like old Dutch and that Kaap de goede Hoop was long in Dutch hands so I think we stayed long enough there that they do talk today or languae . It is not to be proud off but we also the first that bring the slave s to America in the KIT museum in amsterdam is still the original books from the period that tells how much slave s they take on board off the ship and how many survived the trip and how much they make . So I think the Dutch had an big influence in the South part off Africa . The Dutch written history did start in 1652 at that moment did Jan van Riebeeck make an harbourstation at Kaap the Goede Hoop (Dutch name) he was working for the VOC the part with Dutch kolonisten did get slowy bigger in the 17 and 18 century till east till the Visrivier . In 1795 the brittisch take control give it back in 1803 . And take it over again in 1806Then ther was some trouble about compensation stopping the slavery and Dutch kolonisten (also german ) known as Boeren did get away in the years 1830-1840 . They make different state s like the Oranjevrijstaat and Transvaal. Ben Last edited by Dajak; 20th October 2007 at 06:13 AM.