High Hopes, African Dahomey {razor?}

Tim Simmons · 10th October 2007, 05:32 PM

I am really wired up and going to blow all the fuses. I have just got back from walking the dogs and my mind was working over time. Can things just drop into place over time or do I need to be neutered and muzzled

In the Nilgiris Hill when a buffalo is sacrificed it is done with a spear. I have always felt a purpose for this spear and assumed it was African by decoration as I did for this knife. I have not taken into consideration Indian aboriginal work. As mentioned the tribes in the Nilgiris hills may have incorporated Hindu thought into there own beliefs so the snake and Shiva, black and Kali could be displayed here. We know that brass and copper kept spiritual purity, perhaps all the more important with penetration. The killing and butchering of a buffalo still needing certain observances and implements. Is it possible that I have the spear and skinning knife? The damage to the blade not done by chopping but working around heavy bones. I will post pics of the people in question doing it in a funeral rite shortly.

Tim Simmons · 10th October 2007, 06:34 PM

These pictures have the caption of Todas they are a related group to the Kota neither group are high in population the low thousands.

Tim Simmons · 10th October 2007, 08:01 PM

Look at this link-
http://www.svabhinava.org/friends/Fr...fice-frame.php
It mentions that the Kota eat the meat. It also suggests that certainly with the Toda the buffalo is killed with an axe. The book I mention earlier states that the Kota killed the beast with a spear. The sequence of Toda pictures post earlier also back this up especially if you read the caption with the last picture.

fernando · 10th October 2007, 08:54 PM

Hi David,
Good shot.

Hi Tim,
Does this mean Asia one Africa nil?

Fernando

Tim Simmons · 11th October 2007, 07:51 AM

It is amazing what a snippet of information can do, the domino effect. This is what I call good value for money besides the knife being uncommon to say the least. I have had hours of fun thrashing it out and learnt more than I bargained for. To me the discovery makes sense, the spear and butchering knife made with spiritual cleansing in mind. I would like to thank all who contributed to my conversion. Especially David who shed light on the path. I look forward to the next esoteric flight. Thank you.

katana · 11th October 2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

. Especially David who shed light on the path. I look forward to the next esoteric flight. Thank you.

Your very welcome Tim

Regards David

Jens Nordlunde · 15th October 2007, 03:08 PM

Anthony North: An Introduction to Islamic Arms, page 41 #39 d. Axe. Chiselled steel with brass mounts Indo-Persian 18/19th century. 82.3 cm.

10th October 2007, 05:32 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	A leap of faith I am really wired up and going to blow all the fuses. I have just got back from walking the dogs and my mind was working over time. Can things just drop into place over time or do I need to be neutered and muzzled In the Nilgiris Hill when a buffalo is sacrificed it is done with a spear. I have always felt a purpose for this spear and assumed it was African by decoration as I did for this knife. I have not taken into consideration Indian aboriginal work. As mentioned the tribes in the Nilgiris hills may have incorporated Hindu thought into there own beliefs so the snake and Shiva, black and Kali could be displayed here. We know that brass and copper kept spiritual purity, perhaps all the more important with penetration. The killing and butchering of a buffalo still needing certain observances and implements. Is it possible that I have the spear and skinning knife? The damage to the blade not done by chopping but working around heavy bones. I will post pics of the people in question doing it in a funeral rite shortly.

11th October 2007, 07:51 AM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	Revelation conversion It is amazing what a snippet of information can do, the domino effect. This is what I call good value for money besides the knife being uncommon to say the least. I have had hours of fun thrashing it out and learnt more than I bargained for. To me the discovery makes sense, the spear and butchering knife made with spiritual cleansing in mind. I would like to thank all who contributed to my conversion. Especially David who shed light on the path. I look forward to the next esoteric flight. Thank you.

15th October 2007, 03:08 PM	#7
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Anthony North: An Introduction to Islamic Arms, page 41 #39 d. Axe. Chiselled steel with brass mounts Indo-Persian 18/19th century. 82.3 cm. Attached Images

10th October 2007, 06:34 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	These pictures have the caption of Todas they are a related group to the Kota neither group are high in population the low thousands.

10th October 2007, 08:01 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	Look at this link- http://www.svabhinava.org/friends/Fr...fice-frame.php It mentions that the Kota eat the meat. It also suggests that certainly with the Toda the buffalo is killed with an axe. The book I mention earlier states that the Kota killed the beast with a spear. The sequence of Toda pictures post earlier also back this up especially if you read the caption with the last picture. Last edited by Tim Simmons; 10th October 2007 at 08:28 PM.

10th October 2007, 08:54 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi David, Good shot. Hi Tim, Does this mean Asia one Africa nil? Fernando