Flyessa

spiral · 22nd September 2007, 12:16 AM

I rather wonder if like Taureg pieces, the earylist ones were wood handled not brass?

Spiral

Emanuel · 22nd September 2007, 08:37 PM

Here are the pages I was referring to.

Stylistically, I wonder how the decorative scheme developed. It's logical enough that composition was derived to fill in the space, and thus it had to fit its shape.

If the flyssa evolved from the yataghan, perhaps the scrolling creeper design was brought over from Anatolian models, to be later refined. The simpler parallel composition may therefore be indicative of older manufacture.

Have a look at this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3466 there is a flyssa-like sword with scrollwork identical to yours. Ham maintained that it is a yataghan, but since the incisions on that blade were also scored, I believe it was also meant to receive brass highlights. In that case, were Ottoman yataghans ever decorated with overlaid brass? If not, could that sword be a flyssa after all?

Emanuel

katana · 22nd September 2007, 09:11 PM

VERY....very nice Bill.....the decoration definately seems atypical and the suggestion by Spiral about the wood handle seems likely.

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Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Here are the pages I was referring to. Stylistically, I wonder how the decorative scheme developed. It's logical enough that composition was derived to fill in the space, and thus it had to fit its shape. If the flyssa evolved from the yataghan, perhaps the scrolling creeper design was brought over from Anatolian models, to be later refined. The simpler parallel composition may therefore be indicative of older manufacture. Have a look at this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3466 there is a flyssa-like sword with scrollwork identical to yours. Ham maintained that it is a yataghan, but since the incisions on that blade were also scored, I believe it was also meant to receive brass highlights. In that case, were Ottoman yataghans ever decorated with overlaid brass? If not, could that sword be a flyssa after all? Emanuel Attached Images

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spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	I rather wonder if like Taureg pieces, the earylist ones were wood handled not brass? Spiral

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katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	VERY....very nice Bill.....the decoration definately seems atypical and the suggestion by Spiral about the wood handle seems likely.