Could this be Indonesian ? or Dutch?

[Battara]

Originally Posted by tom hyle

IT appears to be an oceanic SE Asian spear blade mounted as a dagger. The handle looks European, but it's awful generic. Why are we ruling out budiak, and mata tombak? Does this resemble the square-bolstered mystery spears we've discussed before, which seem to perhaps be Visayan?

The reason I rule out Budiak is that it does not fit the Budiak profile. I am even hesitant to label it tombak as well - again profile and characteristics. I like Rsword's pike idea. This fits that profile and the stag horn was common, especially in Scotland and USA for handles.

[Tim Simmons]

It could be part of a carving set. The skewer?

[Henk]

It is not a tombak. And it is certainly not dutch.

A frontiersknife or something like that as Rsword mentioned is the best option for now.

[katana]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

It could be part of a carving set. The skewer?

....a carving set consists of a knife ....and a fork and , although this knife is sharp its medial ridge is too thick and the blade profile totally unsuitable for carving.
A skewer is almost always a pointed even shaft which does not flare out...it is designed to 'pin together' objects.

I still think that this is a re-hilted spearhead (lance tip / pike tip ...thanks for the ....tip RS Sword ) I thought it may be SEA ...but the staghorn hilt design seemed European. There is no doubt in my mind that this was designed as a stabbing weapon. The handle is incredibly ergonomic(underhand and overhand grips) when used in a stabbing motion. It also has excellent balance the POB is where the blade meets hilt....good for a 'fighting knife'.

[PUFF]

If the piece was SEA.. it was a lance's butt, not a head. Some Siamese 's lance have pointy butt pieces like your blade.

And this 's Siamese spear/lance (exept the 3rd piece)

[katana]

Thank you Puff something I had not considered

Going back to the balance of the dagger (photo below), as the antler has much less density than steel I can only assume that the 'tang' is quite 'large' and bulky to give the hilt enough weight to give this 'balance'. this suggests to me that the 'tang' is likely to be the remains of the steel shaft of a spearhead/butt bearing in mind there is no weighted pommel to cause this.


I have found this on Therion Arms. The profile and size of the 'blade' is very similar (although this has pamor)

http://therionarms.com/antiques/therionarms_c419.html


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[tom hyle]

Can we have any sort of reasons why this is simply not a tombak? I'm not getting it. It very closely resembles tombak blades I've seen, without the drawn-on bolster (metuk?)
The thing that lookes European to me is the way the handle tapers smoothly right into the bolster.
No real thoughts on the two mars on the bolster, other than they look more to me like something partially forged out than later vice damage, etc?
Wow, Puff; Now I guess maybe my big spear is Siamese, after all........Jimpul, if you're here; take note
Likewise, budiak can be a tightly construed term. For instance, I am told if hte blade does not have a "panel" seperated by grooves etc. it is not technically a budiak. Budiak as such aside, do we have reason to think this cannot be a S. PI spear point?
Sounds like it might have a thick tang; possibly only the base of a long one that tapered.
The long-tanged spear is AFAIKnew a uniquely Oceanic E Asian technology? Now I must consided my Thai spear. Joy

[David]

Originally Posted by tom hyle

Can we have any sort of reasons why this is simply not a tombak? I'm not getting it. It very closely resembles tombak blades I've seen, without the drawn-on bolster (metuk?)

Tom, i think you answered your own question here. No metuk, not a tombak.