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12th August 2007, 11:58 PM
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Patteern Weld Barrel
Ward,
The square barrel mughal rifle form the Figiel sale purchased by Bob Hale never left the USA, mostly because of ivory related export problems. Square barreled gun are indeed very scare, and that also has a square bore, thats a rare puppy. Have never seen an Islamic one like that. There are examples of early European guns that have heart, diamond and club, and spade shaped bores also in a slow twist, just amazing to think about. Reason for shape of bore on those was listed as talismanic. Great examples of barrels Ward, thanks for posting those. Believe you are right on the mark about people of wealth wanting something different. rand |
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13th August 2007, 12:14 AM
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I have a few pieces from Figiel. I will post a few pics of the full rifles when I get a chance
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13th August 2007, 02:39 PM
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i'M unsure, but the square one appears to maybe be a faked pattern.
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13th August 2007, 04:01 PM
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Square Barrel Pattern
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Have to respectfully disagree with you Tom, the etched pattern on the square barrel looks very good. There are also a few similar varients of that pattern, one being from a firearm identified as being from Tibet where the etched pattern weld hints of being a stylized cloud in appearance. Josh, Could you post you pic of the Tibetan rifle here? One thing I would like to hear opinions on is age. Have yet to see a clear chronolgy of miquelet and earlier Islamic firearms. We have distinction for different sttyles of miquelet locks by region. Most miquelets rifle are identified as simply 18th century or circa 1800. The matchlock Turkish musket is even more mysterious, with little information on bore. rand |
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13th August 2007, 06:08 PM
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no It is not a acid etched pattern. just a well made pattern weld
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13th August 2007, 06:28 PM
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Display of Pattern
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Hi Ward, Are you saying the pattern welded barrel design is brought out by polishing only? My understanding is the barrels were polished and then etched in an acidic soultion to bring out the pattern clearly. In no way am I inferring this barrel to be a type of "false damacus", its a rare and amazing example of a Turkish firearm. Ward, Can you show photo's of the locks? Am assuming they are mounted with a type of miquelet lock. rand Last edited by rand; 13th August 2007 at 07:51 PM. Reason: spelling error |
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13th August 2007, 06:32 PM
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you are corect I was saying the pattern was not carved in wax and then acid etched as in false damacene . I will get some pics up soon
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