Interesting Javanese sword for comments

Rick · 10th August 2007, 07:53 PM

The blade reminds me of Tjikeroeh work without the decoration .

Battara · 10th August 2007, 08:18 PM

The chasing work on the silver is well done and impressive.

kai · 10th August 2007, 10:36 PM

Hello Bill,

Looks like a nice, laminated blade!

From what areas have blade edges with chisel grind been well documented? The Visayans and Borneo seem to figure most prominently with additional examples from Sulawesi, Moluccas, etc. Can we try to gather a comprehensive list (and also specify blade types for areas were chisel grind is not the rule)?

Regards,
Kai

Bill M · 11th August 2007, 03:04 AM

CORRECTION: I just noticed that the blade is cut on both sides. I was showing my wife how it was like a talibon and realized I had made a mistake. Sorry. Hope this helps to identify it.

Note the opening in the scabbard.

VVV · 11th August 2007, 04:42 PM

It looks West Java, as Rick also suggests (sheath, blade and most of the hilt).
But usually the (mostly horn) hilt ends slightly curved and with a flat top.
Very interesting parang variation!

Michael

ashoka · 11th August 2007, 05:14 PM

a variation of this rare form..

http://www.ashokaarts.com/edgedweapons/ew-42.html

CharlesS · 11th August 2007, 05:25 PM

I'm so glad Ashoka added that...I had wanted t mention it as a reference, but was not sure of the rules on such to a retail site.

Great reference. Note the hilt shape, minus the cross guard; also the similarity in blade contour.

VVV · 1st September 2007, 10:00 AM

I am more and more leaning towards that this is of Sulawesi origin, like Josh first stated.
The reason is that a golok with a similar hilt variation in Leiden was collected in Sulawesi.
The brother of the one at the Ashoka link is in Tropen and was also collected in Sulawesi.
I haven't seen any golok collected in W Java with that hilt top. All of them have the flat top.
Of course two reference swords are not that many...

Michael

11th August 2007, 03:04 AM	#4
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	CORRECTION: I just noticed that the blade is cut on both sides. I was showing my wife how it was like a talibon and realized I had made a mistake. Sorry. Hope this helps to identify it. Note the opening in the scabbard. Attached Images

10th August 2007, 07:53 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	The blade reminds me of Tjikeroeh work without the decoration .

10th August 2007, 08:18 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,310	The chasing work on the silver is well done and impressive.

10th August 2007, 10:36 PM	#3
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Bill, Looks like a nice, laminated blade! From what areas have blade edges with chisel grind been well documented? The Visayans and Borneo seem to figure most prominently with additional examples from Sulawesi, Moluccas, etc. Can we try to gather a comprehensive list (and also specify blade types for areas were chisel grind is not the rule)? Regards, Kai

11th August 2007, 04:42 PM	#5
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	It looks West Java, as Rick also suggests (sheath, blade and most of the hilt). But usually the (mostly horn) hilt ends slightly curved and with a flat top. Very interesting parang variation! Michael

11th August 2007, 05:14 PM	#6
ashoka Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 61	a variation of this rare form.. http://www.ashokaarts.com/edgedweapons/ew-42.html

11th August 2007, 05:25 PM	#7
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	I'm so glad Ashoka added that...I had wanted t mention it as a reference, but was not sure of the rules on such to a retail site. Great reference. Note the hilt shape, minus the cross guard; also the similarity in blade contour.

1st September 2007, 10:00 AM	#8
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	I am more and more leaning towards that this is of Sulawesi origin, like Josh first stated. The reason is that a golok with a similar hilt variation in Leiden was collected in Sulawesi. The brother of the one at the Ashoka link is in Tropen and was also collected in Sulawesi. I haven't seen any golok collected in W Java with that hilt top. All of them have the flat top. Of course two reference swords are not that many... Michael