Indian sword

RhysMichael · 24th May 2007, 12:16 AM

A nice sword, definitely Aceh and they come from time to time with a pattern welded blade. The one I have with a pattern welded blade came from Artzi. It is called a pedang type 1 and also peudeueng pasangan , sikin peusangan, sikin pasagan, pedang, poedeung. There are so many dialects in that region that it gets really confusing. I use peudeueng as I beleive that to be the Aceh term for it. The hilt is called a hulu meu apet and should have a spike similar but smaller than is found on a firangi. Congrats on a good find.

utami is in that part of the world and has some connections with Aceh smiths. I do not know if they can make a replacement part for you but its sure worth asking. Phillip Tom may be another resource for it

freddy if you get a chance I would appreciate some better pictures of the scabbard to peudeung if you ever get a chance

flavio the handle of the mongelima sword looks to be a similar to some seen on burmese swords. Maybe a boars tooth ? but just a guess.

Andrew thanks for the kind words but the article is a compilation of information shared on this forum with me. So the credit should go to all those here who were so willing to share.

Andrew · 24th May 2007, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RhysMichael

Andrew thanks for the kind words but the article is a compilation of information shared on this forum with me. So the credit should go to all those here who were so willing to share.

You're too modest, John.

Assembling the generously shared information from here or other sources can be a tedious and daunting task.

With your permission, I'd like to ask Lee to host a copy of your article on the EEWRS resource page.

kai · 24th May 2007, 06:56 AM

Hello John,

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flavio the handle of the mongelima sword looks to be a similar to some seen on burmese swords. Maybe a boars tooth ? but just a guess.

The Mongelima sword is the one at the bottom of the pic.

The "hunting sword" seems to have a boars teeth hilt.

Some pics from both sides of the Mandau would be nice, too.

Is there a mark/inscription at the base of that "letter opener," Freddy?

Regards,
Kai

Freddy · 24th May 2007, 07:37 AM

Kai, I guess you mean the knife with the curved blade.

It has a mark, but it's nothing I could read. But I can say this : it's entirely made of bronze and quite heavy.

The African sword was used by the following tribes : Boa, Hanga, Angba, Mba en Benge, all from Congo. It has an ivory handle, but unfortunately it was a later addition.....and a bad one. It consist of a hollow piece of ivory filled with plaster

Flavio · 24th May 2007, 04:17 PM

Thank you Freddy. It'a a very shame! A beautiful Mongelima blade with this bad restoration

Freddy · 25th May 2007, 05:13 PM

Here is a pic of the knife with curved blade. It's entirely made of bronze. I think it's some kind of paperweight. Nicely made, though.

Freddy · 25th May 2007, 05:26 PM

As requested : here are some pics of the sheath. It consists of two flat wooden pieces covered with leather. On the front the sheath shows a middle rib.

kai · 25th May 2007, 10:11 PM

Hello Freddy,

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Here is a pic of the knife with curved blade. It's entirely made of bronze. I think it's some kind of paperweight. Nicely made, though.

Yeah, quite a lot of effort put into it...

I seem to remember another bronze hilt resembling some antilope horn like this one but didn't found the reference yet. Origin was not known, too, if I recall correctly.

Does somebody recognize the script? I hope it may help to solve this puzzle!

Regards,
Kai

24th May 2007, 12:16 AM	#1
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	A nice sword, definitely Aceh and they come from time to time with a pattern welded blade. The one I have with a pattern welded blade came from Artzi. It is called a pedang type 1 and also peudeueng pasangan , sikin peusangan, sikin pasagan, pedang, poedeung. There are so many dialects in that region that it gets really confusing. I use peudeueng as I beleive that to be the Aceh term for it. The hilt is called a hulu meu apet and should have a spike similar but smaller than is found on a firangi. Congrats on a good find. utami is in that part of the world and has some connections with Aceh smiths. I do not know if they can make a replacement part for you but its sure worth asking. Phillip Tom may be another resource for it freddy if you get a chance I would appreciate some better pictures of the scabbard to peudeung if you ever get a chance flavio the handle of the mongelima sword looks to be a similar to some seen on burmese swords. Maybe a boars tooth ? but just a guess. Andrew thanks for the kind words but the article is a compilation of information shared on this forum with me. So the credit should go to all those here who were so willing to share. Last edited by RhysMichael; 24th May 2007 at 12:30 AM.

24th May 2007, 07:37 AM	#4
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	letter opener Kai, I guess you mean the knife with the curved blade. It has a mark, but it's nothing I could read. But I can say this : it's entirely made of bronze and quite heavy. The African sword was used by the following tribes : Boa, Hanga, Angba, Mba en Benge, all from Congo. It has an ivory handle, but unfortunately it was a later addition.....and a bad one. It consist of a hollow piece of ivory filled with plaster

24th May 2007, 04:17 PM	#5
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Thank you Freddy. It'a a very shame! A beautiful Mongelima blade with this bad restoration

25th May 2007, 05:13 PM	#6
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Here is a pic of the knife with curved blade. It's entirely made of bronze. I think it's some kind of paperweight. Nicely made, though.

25th May 2007, 05:26 PM	#7
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	As requested : here are some pics of the sheath. It consists of two flat wooden pieces covered with leather. On the front the sheath shows a middle rib.