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Old 9th March 2007, 04:18 PM   #1
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Default An Murut Jimpul

Never see an Jimpul from the Muruts

Or an Jimpul in Murut style



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Old 9th March 2007, 05:09 PM   #2
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Very interesting Jimpul with an unusual tip.
But the only thing that looks Murut, and not Iban, as far as I can see is the cut tip of the blade?

Nice find!


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Old 9th March 2007, 06:06 PM   #3
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Hi Michael yes the tip make s it murut never see it and what you think about that parang sankit with the brass inlay just get it today



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Old 9th March 2007, 06:06 PM   #4
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But the only thing that looks Murut, and not Iban, as far as I can see is the cut tip of the blade?
Any chance that this blade really was cut-off (possily by a Murut?) - or does the engraving end that arbitrarily at some regular Jimpul tips?

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Old 9th March 2007, 08:27 PM   #5
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Hi no way the blade cut off there is some engraving on the tip and the handle is rare scabbard no Iban style

the style at the blade tip I only found at the pakayun or parang sankit

But never see an pic off Murut style mandau

Does any one have same style like this ???


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ps to John from Sabah The pic s off the weapons off the MURUT cd will be send tomorrow to you . (as you can see the last sangkit I did recieve now)
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Old 9th March 2007, 08:41 PM   #6
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Hi see below are 3 jimpuls other ones are Murut crowit little different and blade style not only the tip is not any jumpull style It very difficult for me because no real evidence murut pic carrying stuff like this one handle rare
mixed style not that I can say this is not Iban .




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Old 9th March 2007, 08:42 PM   #7
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Old 9th March 2007, 09:17 PM   #8
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VERY INTERESTING AND UNUSUAL. THE BRASS FERULE ON THE TWO ALSO LOOKS MORE LIKE MURUT THAN DAYAK. IS THE TOP EXAMPLE OLDER THAN THE BOTTOM ONE? THE WAY THE TANG COMES OUT STRAIGHT FROM THE HANDLE AND THEN DROPS DOWN TO A SHARP POINT WHERE THE EDGE BEGINS REMINDS ME OF SOME OF THE BATACK SHORT SWORDS PISO PODANG IF I REMBER CORRECTLY. WITH YOUR COLLECTION YOU NEED TO GO VISIT THE MURUT AND GIVE A CLASS ON THE WEAPONS THEY HAD IN THE PAST AS I DOUBT VERY FEW HAVE SEEN THEM. CONGRADULATIONS ON THE FINE SWORDS.
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Old 9th March 2007, 11:39 PM   #9
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Hi Vandoo the below is the oldest one but both are 19th cent .
And John if he get the cd he might show it to the museum
The bras collar is typical I have also an murut spear with an collar like an pakayun bigger collar .
Yes the bataks have same style but if you pit them together you see little different style


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Old 10th March 2007, 07:22 AM   #10
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Hi Michael yes the tip make s it murut never see it and what you think about that parang sankit with the brass inlay just get it today



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If it's a broken tip that has been cut down then maybe it only resembles Murut?
I think Kai has a good "point" with the broken motif/engraving.
The rest of the Jimpul doesn't look Murut and as you say yourself they are not known for carrying Jimpul.
A very unique and interesting parang anyway that probably has a very special story to tell.

On the rare Sangkit I haven't seen any with brass dots like that before - congratulations!
Could you please post some additional close ups?

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Old 10th March 2007, 08:12 AM   #11
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Hi Michael I never see an jimpul out off the scabbard from the muruts
but on old picture s you see the have mandau s
and if you take a good look if you see it in real that it is not an cut down
and it is typical for muruts this type off blade
I am sure if you visit me you will think the same.

brass dot s are also in pakayun s as you can see the in the pic s
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Old 10th March 2007, 10:37 AM   #12
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Hi Ben,

Thanks for sharing the pictures.
Look forward to see them IRL next time we meet.
On Muruts and Mandau maybe it's more correct to use the term Gayang for those swords, not being of the characteristic concave/convex blade shape?

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Old 10th March 2007, 11:03 AM   #13
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Hi Michael Mandau is like dayaks swords
then you have specific parang Ilang , langai tingai ,Jimpul and more mandau you can see as the word parang
the one you describe is an parang Ilang also an mandau this is the common word for it



if someone have an mandau that is cut down I like to see an pic never see one


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Old 10th March 2007, 11:06 AM   #14
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...ps to John from Sabah. The pics of the weapons of the MURUT cd will be sent tomorrow to you . (as you can see the last sangkit I did recieve now).

And John if he get the cd he might show it to the museum.
Thank you so much Ben. Very much appreciated and I owe you lunch. As always those Borneon stuffs you've posted have been very interesting as well as mind boggling especially that many of the stuffs probably emanated around my "backyard".

I go along with Vandoo in that you'll need to come to visit the Murut (and the rest of the indigenous) people and give them a glimpse to some of the weapons they had in the past. Do let me know should such a venture materialises.

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Old 10th March 2007, 11:46 AM   #15
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Hi John I have to come with a little more than I have now on the moment
I have only 17 murut pieces


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