A PLUG BAYONET

fernando · 11th February 2007, 09:21 PM

Hi Jim
Thank you so much for your comprehensive input.
All the best for you and yours.
fernando

spiral · 11th February 2007, 10:10 PM

I dont know whether it helps , probably not,
but Handle looks like nice mediteranian grown evergreen oak. very hard & heavy.

Spiral

Jim McDougall · 12th February 2007, 12:41 AM

You're very welcome Fernando, glad I could find info on this nice piece!

Spiral, thank you for adding that! I was actually wondering what type of wood that would be, and honestly know zero on this kind of data, which adds even more support to the attribution. Appreciate the input very much

All the best,
Jim

spiral · 12th February 2007, 03:17 AM

Thankyou Jim, the medulary rays are quite identifiable realy, I have a spanish marking gauge & plane of the same timber, & have also cut & split for firewood a miss shaped one, Grown in Devon, England as a Victorean experiment for ship building timber. {It splits & warps to much when grown fast in rich wet English farmland soil.}

Spiral

fernando · 12th February 2007, 09:34 PM

Thank you Spiral.
So its Azinheira ( Holm ) a variant of Carvalho ( Oak ).
I will follow that.
Kind regards
fernando

The Double D · 13th February 2007, 03:35 AM

Has the handle on this bayonet been replaced? It just doesn't look right to me, to much taper

fernando · 13th February 2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Double D

Has the handle on this bayonet been replaced? It just doesn't look right to me, to much taper

It has already been observed above that the mountings are of a later date, although not necessarily ungenuine. To my humble view there is nothing wrong with the peened tang handle , as i see examples in the Net with a similar tapering.

spiral · 15th February 2007, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

Thank you Spiral.
So its Azinheira ( Holm ) a variant of Carvalho ( Oak ).
I will follow that.
Kind regards
fernando

Indeed so Fernando! we call it Holm oak as well.

Spiral

fernando · 16th February 2007, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiral

Indeed so Fernando! we call it Holm oak as well.

It all makes sense, considering your previous posting. I have checked the woods used in naval architecture in the old days ( Portuguese discoveries ). Holm ( azinho ) was used in the small parts of ships skeletons. Very hard stuff. I also think i remember seeing this wood, full of vains, in carpenter planes.

11th February 2007, 09:21 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi Jim Thank you so much for your comprehensive input. All the best for you and yours. fernando

11th February 2007, 10:10 PM	#2
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	I dont know whether it helps , probably not, but Handle looks like nice mediteranian grown evergreen oak. very hard & heavy. Spiral

12th February 2007, 12:41 AM	#3
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,191	You're very welcome Fernando, glad I could find info on this nice piece! Spiral, thank you for adding that! I was actually wondering what type of wood that would be, and honestly know zero on this kind of data, which adds even more support to the attribution. Appreciate the input very much All the best, Jim

12th February 2007, 03:17 AM	#4
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Thankyou Jim, the medulary rays are quite identifiable realy, I have a spanish marking gauge & plane of the same timber, & have also cut & split for firewood a miss shaped one, Grown in Devon, England as a Victorean experiment for ship building timber. {It splits & warps to much when grown fast in rich wet English farmland soil.} Spiral

12th February 2007, 09:34 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thank you Spiral. So its Azinheira ( Holm ) a variant of Carvalho ( Oak ). I will follow that. Kind regards fernando

13th February 2007, 03:35 AM	#6
The Double D Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: On the banks of Cut Bank Creek, Montana Posts: 189	Has the handle on this bayonet been replaced? It just doesn't look right to me, to much taper