Moro keris without clamps

Battara · 29th December 2006, 01:03 AM

So far I agree with everyone else. The first thing that went through my mind was Malay. The scabbard is Malaysian without a doubt.

paolo · 31st December 2006, 11:38 AM

It seems to me that most of you agree on a Malay sundang blade, assembled with newer Malayan dress and a recent sheat (Malayan too). Now I wish know your opinion if was better to leave on the keris how it is now, or to save only the blade (that seems to be the better thing of the keris). Last question : might you suggest an age for the blade?
Regards and above all Happy New Year to everyone

Alam Shah · 31st December 2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by paolo

It seems to me that most of you agree on a Malay sundang blade, assembled with newer Malayan dress and a recent sheat (Malayan too). Now I wish know your opinion if was better to leave on the keris how it is now, or to save only the blade (that seems to be the better thing of the keris). Last question : might you suggest an age for the blade?

The ensemble is proper. Best to leave it the way it is now.

My guess would be, probably 20th century for the blade and later for the hilt and sheath. A nice find, congratulations. Should you decide not to keep it, do let me know.

kai · 31st December 2006, 05:24 PM

Hello Paolo,

Please leave it as is - IMHO it wouldn't make any sense to dress this Malay blade in Moro fittings. I also think this is a really nice piece - if Alam Shah doesn't grab it, send me a PM, too...

Perhaps Adni could comment on dating Malay kris? I'd guess at 1st half of 20th century with possibly later fittings. However, if this happens to be a presentation piece for a British officer which was well kept in a collection outside SE Asia, the blade could be older (and/or fittings possibly original).

Regards,
Kai

David · 31st December 2006, 05:33 PM

I absolutely agree, Paolo, i wouldn't change a thing. This is both a beautiful and correct ensemble and you are lucky to own it....but you could but me third on that list if you decide not to keep it.

CharlesS · 1st January 2007, 05:05 PM

By "composite" I simply mean all the pieces were likely not "born together"....nothing more.

29th December 2006, 01:03 AM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,308	So far I agree with everyone else. The first thing that went through my mind was Malay. The scabbard is Malaysian without a doubt.

31st December 2006, 11:38 AM	#2
paolo Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 173	It seems to me that most of you agree on a Malay sundang blade, assembled with newer Malayan dress and a recent sheat (Malayan too). Now I wish know your opinion if was better to leave on the keris how it is now, or to save only the blade (that seems to be the better thing of the keris). Last question : might you suggest an age for the blade? Regards and above all Happy New Year to everyone

31st December 2006, 05:24 PM	#4
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Paolo, Please leave it as is - IMHO it wouldn't make any sense to dress this Malay blade in Moro fittings. I also think this is a really nice piece - if Alam Shah doesn't grab it, send me a PM, too... Perhaps Adni could comment on dating Malay kris? I'd guess at 1st half of 20th century with possibly later fittings. However, if this happens to be a presentation piece for a British officer which was well kept in a collection outside SE Asia, the blade could be older (and/or fittings possibly original). Regards, Kai

31st December 2006, 05:33 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,228	I absolutely agree, Paolo, i wouldn't change a thing. This is both a beautiful and correct ensemble and you are lucky to own it....but you could but me third on that list if you decide not to keep it.

1st January 2007, 05:05 PM	#6
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	By "composite" I simply mean all the pieces were likely not "born together"....nothing more.