This one is for Bill Marsh: what is it?

Dajak · 12th December 2006, 12:19 AM

Hi I think this is not an old molukken sword
the older ones looks very different and are much more expensive

Ben

DaveS · 12th December 2006, 05:54 AM

Ben: I have to agree, that at that price it is probably a newer piece. However the low price sometimes dosn't mean too much as sometimes people really don't know what they might have. Pictures sometimes fool even know-ledgeable collectors. I told Bill and Ann a story of what happened at a knife show that Cecil Querino and i were doing years ago. A fellow came to my table with pictures of what was an Indonesian klewang. It had hair on the pommel and all the other trimmings that we sometimes see. Upon looking at the pictures, Cecil and i calmly and confidently told the man that this was a gaudy tourist sword, not worth much. The man thank us and went on his way. A year later at the same show this same man came back to my table, this time with piece in hand. When Cecil and i saw it in person we were completly and totaly shocked! This was ABSOLUTELY NOT a tourist piece. It was the real deal, and both of us felt a little bit humbled by the experience. What i learned was not to jump to snap judgements when evaluating a sword from pictures, even good ones because they can be very decieving. I really believe that pictures tell us NOTHING about age, or even condition, as some very old pieces might have been very well kept and not used very much, but old nevertheless. This is why i also think that there are some pieces on ebay that often get passed over as new, when they really are not. I just don't trust making an evaluation as to age anymore based on pictures. Oh well, just my ramblings.............Dave

Dajak · 12th December 2006, 07:24 AM

Hi DaveS the only cheap molukken sword I did see sell in the years was on artzi site from oriental arms a few years ago .

I did buy myself an nice mandua for a cheap price in my opinnion because the quality was not regcognised and some people did put on a low bid .

but an nice molukken sword is haevy in price I have only one and been trying to get another one

Ben

12th December 2006, 12:19 AM	#1
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi I think this is not an old molukken sword the older ones looks very different and are much more expensive Ben

12th December 2006, 05:54 AM	#2
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	Ben: I have to agree, that at that price it is probably a newer piece. However the low price sometimes dosn't mean too much as sometimes people really don't know what they might have. Pictures sometimes fool even know-ledgeable collectors. I told Bill and Ann a story of what happened at a knife show that Cecil Querino and i were doing years ago. A fellow came to my table with pictures of what was an Indonesian klewang. It had hair on the pommel and all the other trimmings that we sometimes see. Upon looking at the pictures, Cecil and i calmly and confidently told the man that this was a gaudy tourist sword, not worth much. The man thank us and went on his way. A year later at the same show this same man came back to my table, this time with piece in hand. When Cecil and i saw it in person we were completly and totaly shocked! This was ABSOLUTELY NOT a tourist piece. It was the real deal, and both of us felt a little bit humbled by the experience. What i learned was not to jump to snap judgements when evaluating a sword from pictures, even good ones because they can be very decieving. I really believe that pictures tell us NOTHING about age, or even condition, as some very old pieces might have been very well kept and not used very much, but old nevertheless. This is why i also think that there are some pieces on ebay that often get passed over as new, when they really are not. I just don't trust making an evaluation as to age anymore based on pictures. Oh well, just my ramblings.............Dave

12th December 2006, 07:24 AM	#3
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi DaveS the only cheap molukken sword I did see sell in the years was on artzi site from oriental arms a few years ago . I did buy myself an nice mandua for a cheap price in my opinnion because the quality was not regcognised and some people did put on a low bid . but an nice molukken sword is haevy in price I have only one and been trying to get another one Ben