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Old 11th December 2006, 12:55 PM   #1
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Usually I see Lew snatch these beauties up,

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So..... I'm not the only one that has noticed that


Emanuel, thats a very nice blade....I too like the North African arm knives I think yours is a good example.....hopefully someone will be able to translate the script.
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Old 11th December 2006, 01:16 PM   #2
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Very nice knife blade. You should try to find a suitable sheath. On ebay, it's possible to buy cheap tourist knives. But mostly the sheaths are well made.

Katana, this is not a North African knife, rather a West African knife.
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Old 11th December 2006, 01:51 PM   #3
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Katana, this is not a North African knife, rather a West African knife.
Yes Freddy...you are right.....I should have checked what I had written.. ..although it could be from the North West
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Old 11th December 2006, 02:46 PM   #4
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Thanks!

I'll look for an appropriate sheath...I just noticed on the second to last picture it looks like a chunk is broken off the hilt...too bad, it lookd almost perfect!
Any ideas about where specifically examples like this one come from? They seem to vary a lot in shape and blade quality...are some variants specific to certain countries or ethnic groups?

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Old 11th December 2006, 06:04 PM   #5
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Thanks!

I'll look for an appropriate sheath...I just noticed on the second to last picture it looks like a chunk is broken off the hilt...too bad, it lookd almost perfect!
Any ideas about where specifically examples like this one come from? They seem to vary a lot in shape and blade quality...are some variants specific to certain countries or ethnic groups?

Emanuel
Manolo, don't be alarmed because a piece of the hilt is missing. I looked at the picture and it seems to be an old break. This could mean your piece has some age to it.

As to the provenance, Tim is quite right when he states that the origin could be West-Africa. These knives were traded all over the Sahara region and beyond. There are a lot of different styles of arm dagger to be found.

Here is a brand new arm dagger. It was bought by a person who worked in the Sudan, near Darfur. He bought this knife in 2004, in a village between El Fasher, El Geneina and Nyala. The blade is cut from a piece of steel and razor sharp. In addition to the knife, the sheath also contains a long needle and a pair of tweezers. The sheath is made from leather. But to 'embellish' it, the maker took some kind of plastic material with lizard print and added it to the sheath.

Here are two pics of the knife in its sheath. Later, I will post a pic of the knife itself.



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Old 11th December 2006, 07:38 PM   #6
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Most of these daggers are circa 1890-1900. I happen to have an old one that may be from 1875-85 it really is hard to nail down an exact date.

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Old 12th December 2006, 01:03 AM   #7
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Thanks for the info!

What's somewhat surprising about these blades is the level of refinement they can attain. This is a nice example, but I've seen some with even more complicated fullers. They also show very fine polishing and straight lines. These blades are also thicker...beefier.

1900? so they would have had access to some sort of lath to turn the pommel I imagine. They show a lot of care and craftsmanship, especially the ones with ivory.

I'll write it down as a late 19th-early 20th century western Sahel variant.

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