1730 Rapier or a Victorian 'Copy' .........any ideas?

katana · 24th November 2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by spiral

Now we get the facts!

Id expect at least half that weight to be packing then! hopefully a lot more!
What weight would you like to fight & fence with one handed & wear on your belt all day as a civilian?

Thats what I would guess a rapier weighs. Very Light in other words.

Spiral

Good point Spiral......I wrote down the weight and forgot that it included packing

........at least the sword is looking a little more 'promising'

If it is indeed a 'heavy weight' do you think I could argue that it is a lunar dueling sword......afterall with 1/6 less gravity on the moon, it would suddenly become very light indeed

Lew · 24th November 2006, 09:55 PM

Throw a few cornish hens on that puppy and give them a good roasting

Looks like a wall hanger to me.

Lew

spiral · 24th November 2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

Throw a few cornish hens on that puppy and give them a good roasting

Looks like a wall hanger to me.

Lew

Sorry to say, Id still take money on Louis kebab theory as the most realistic!

It looks a clumsy tool to me more of a bludgen than a rapier.

Spiral

katana · 24th November 2006, 10:48 PM

Please Gentlemen .....be easy on me......else I won't invite you round for to my BBQ ...with my new novelty 'spit roast' turner

spiral · 24th November 2006, 11:32 PM

Beuty in the eye of the beholder & all that!

Spiral

The Double D · 25th November 2006, 04:41 AM

Man, these guys are brutal! I think they may be wrong it has the appearance of a very rare early Boer braai pattern rapier.

We all are going to look the fools if this turns out to be Jen-U-Wine!

Jim McDougall · 25th November 2006, 06:49 AM

Despite all the BBQ tool analysis

JUDL!! I cant resist throwing in my 2cents on this 'item'.

I am inclined to agree with Marc on the 'Victorian' period assessment, but am wondering if this might be a theatrical weapon. It seems that some of the weapons made for 'period' performances were made sturdily, although not necessarily completely accurate. While this sword is made to appear to be a cuphilt rapier, it is clearly not intended to withstand comparison to the authentic examples. It would however, present the desired effect as part of a costume in a performance.

Just speculation on my part. It seems like many of the so called wallhangers or reproductions for gentlemans parlors during Victorian times at least made viable attempt at a degree of authenticity. Many of these were easily passed off as authentic examples by antique dealers in the 20th century to unwary buyers.

Katana, even if this is a Victorian period sword, for whatever purpose, it still clearly has its own story to tell....

All the best,
Jim

24th November 2006, 09:55 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Throw a few cornish hens on that puppy and give them a good roasting Looks like a wall hanger to me. Lew

24th November 2006, 10:48 PM	#4
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Please Gentlemen .....be easy on me......else I won't invite you round for to my BBQ ...with my new novelty 'spit roast' turner

24th November 2006, 11:32 PM	#5
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Beuty in the eye of the beholder & all that! Spiral

25th November 2006, 04:41 AM	#6
The Double D Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: On the banks of Cut Bank Creek, Montana Posts: 189	Man, these guys are brutal! I think they may be wrong it has the appearance of a very rare early Boer braai pattern rapier. We all are going to look the fools if this turns out to be Jen-U-Wine!

25th November 2006, 06:49 AM	#7
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,680	Despite all the BBQ tool analysis JUDL!! I cant resist throwing in my 2cents on this 'item'. I am inclined to agree with Marc on the 'Victorian' period assessment, but am wondering if this might be a theatrical weapon. It seems that some of the weapons made for 'period' performances were made sturdily, although not necessarily completely accurate. While this sword is made to appear to be a cuphilt rapier, it is clearly not intended to withstand comparison to the authentic examples. It would however, present the desired effect as part of a costume in a performance. Just speculation on my part. It seems like many of the so called wallhangers or reproductions for gentlemans parlors during Victorian times at least made viable attempt at a degree of authenticity. Many of these were easily passed off as authentic examples by antique dealers in the 20th century to unwary buyers. Katana, even if this is a Victorian period sword, for whatever purpose, it still clearly has its own story to tell.... All the best, Jim