FIRANGI FOR COMMENTS

Flavio · 27th October 2006, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

Lew is perfectly correct: no matter what, this sword is a true Firanghi.
Having said that, I still suspect the blade is local: the markings do not correspond to anything European I've seen and look somewhat crudely executed. The " running wolf" is a mark of Passau (later Solingen). Local everywhere in the world imitated it with imagination running wild.
Do not take me wrong: the quality of the "local" blade might have been better than the original.
Good sword!

Thank you Lew and Ariel

Ariel, no problem at all, and thank you for the explanation on the running wolf

Jens Nordlunde · 30th October 2006, 04:22 PM

Hi Flavio

,

If this is you first firangi, you have chosen well. It is very nice and old as well. I like the blade, but especially I like the hilt, this was not made for parades, it was made for use. The decoration under the guard, is very nice. Imagine what it must have looked like when the decoration was intact.

Yes Lew is right, no matter where the blade was made, it is a firangi.

Flavio · 30th October 2006, 04:35 PM

Hi Jens

, Thank you very much

Flavio · 30th October 2006, 06:33 PM

Hi all, sorry for this question, that could be stupid, but on the fews firangi that i have seen (on this forum, on ebay and on seller's sites) seems always, or in many cases, that he blades are over cleaned: this is due to the age (i mean cleaning through the years), to recent over cleaning or what? also mine shows a over cleaning (see the "running wolf" signs). Thank you

Lew · 30th October 2006, 06:42 PM

Flavio

Yes your blade looks be be a bit over cleaned you can tell by the fullers they have a tired appearance to them but it is still a good sword in good condition.
Over cleaning is an occupational hazard that we collectors must deal with. If your sword was all nasty and rusted you may not have bought and on the other hand if it were pristine you would have paid four times as much for it so in this way you have settled for the middle ground.

Lew

Flavio · 30th October 2006, 06:50 PM

Hi Lew,

yes what you say is perfect, but what makes me think is the fact that the blade near the handle (where the two tongues [sorry i don't know the exact term

] meets the blade with the two rivets) doesn't show the rust that i have to expect in a place so difficult to clean. Anyway these are just free thoughts

p.s. maybe the blade was re-mounted?

Lew · 30th October 2006, 07:30 PM

Flavio

One reason why you may see less rust on the langlets is they were made of milder steel with less carbon content. Sword blades would have a higher carbon content there fore they would be more prone to rusting. Another reason is firangi blades if damaged or broken in battle could be easly replaced with a new blade just by punching out the rivet and attaching a new blade.

Lew

30th October 2006, 04:22 PM	#2
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Flavio, If this is you first firangi, you have chosen well. It is very nice and old as well. I like the blade, but especially I like the hilt, this was not made for parades, it was made for use. The decoration under the guard, is very nice. Imagine what it must have looked like when the decoration was intact. Yes Lew is right, no matter where the blade was made, it is a firangi. Last edited by Jens Nordlunde; 30th October 2006 at 04:32 PM.

30th October 2006, 04:35 PM	#3
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hi Jens , Thank you very much

30th October 2006, 06:33 PM	#4
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hi all, sorry for this question, that could be stupid, but on the fews firangi that i have seen (on this forum, on ebay and on seller's sites) seems always, or in many cases, that he blades are over cleaned: this is due to the age (i mean cleaning through the years), to recent over cleaning or what? also mine shows a over cleaning (see the "running wolf" signs). Thank you

30th October 2006, 06:42 PM	#5
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Flavio Yes your blade looks be be a bit over cleaned you can tell by the fullers they have a tired appearance to them but it is still a good sword in good condition. Over cleaning is an occupational hazard that we collectors must deal with. If your sword was all nasty and rusted you may not have bought and on the other hand if it were pristine you would have paid four times as much for it so in this way you have settled for the middle ground. Lew

30th October 2006, 06:50 PM	#6
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hi Lew, yes what you say is perfect, but what makes me think is the fact that the blade near the handle (where the two tongues [sorry i don't know the exact term ] meets the blade with the two rivets) doesn't show the rust that i have to expect in a place so difficult to clean. Anyway these are just free thoughts p.s. maybe the blade was re-mounted?

30th October 2006, 07:30 PM	#7
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Flavio One reason why you may see less rust on the langlets is they were made of milder steel with less carbon content. Sword blades would have a higher carbon content there fore they would be more prone to rusting. Another reason is firangi blades if damaged or broken in battle could be easly replaced with a new blade just by punching out the rivet and attaching a new blade. Lew