Moro kris mystery

Ian · 27th September 2006, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mross

Ian,
I agree not Moro. Could you post some photos of yours? How did you arrive at an age?

mross:

I picked up my examples in Manila from a dealer whom I have known for quite some time and have developed an "understanding." He is now quite open about his sources and will tell me where he gets his pieces and there age as best he knows.

I picked up a Bagobo/Kaolo kris (they are part of the group of Lumad tribes -- non-Christian, non-Muslim) from him in a typical Bagobo-adorned scabbard with lots of beads, etc. and he told me these were coming out of Davao City and were made post-1960.

I have also been told that the craftsmen give these kris to kids to wear around the village for a while so that they appear "aged."

Here is a link to a thread on the old UBB Forum which has a couple of examples of Lumad kris: http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001448.html

And here is the Bagobo kris that I picked up in Manila:

Ian.

mross · 27th September 2006, 09:13 PM

Ian,
Thank you so much for that. It solves the mystery!!!
Mine look like a cross between Bagobo kris (the handle shape is identical) and the Kaulo kris (the blade shape and ganyga) from that old thread. Very cool.

Are any of these swords laminated?

Ian · 27th September 2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mross

Ian, ...

Are any of these swords laminated?

I think some of the older Lumad kris blades were laminated, although those may have been converted Moro pieces. The Bagobo certainly made laminated blades for their own traditional weapons, so I think it is likely that at least some of these kris had laminated blades also.

Ian.

kai · 28th September 2006, 01:29 AM

My example is definitely laminated - I'll try to take pics...

Regards,
Kai

philkid · 30th September 2006, 09:17 AM

I think it came from me originally. I would also say it is from the bagobo people. I also have one here from the tiboli. It also has a separate gangya but the gangya is made from copper.

kai · 30th September 2006, 07:21 PM

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I also have one here from the tiboli. It also has a separate gangya but the gangya is made from copper.

Pics, pics, pics - pretty please!!!

Regards,
Kai

27th September 2006, 09:13 PM	#2
mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	Mystery No More Ian, Thank you so much for that. It solves the mystery!!! Mine look like a cross between Bagobo kris (the handle shape is identical) and the Kaulo kris (the blade shape and ganyga) from that old thread. Very cool. Are any of these swords laminated?

30th September 2006, 09:17 AM	#5
philkid Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philippines Posts: 52	I think it came from me originally. I would also say it is from the bagobo people. I also have one here from the tiboli. It also has a separate gangya but the gangya is made from copper. Last edited by philkid; 30th September 2006 at 04:10 PM.

28th September 2006, 01:29 AM	#4
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	My example is definitely laminated - I'll try to take pics... Regards, Kai