Nice Sumatran Keris For Comment

Lew · 28th August 2006, 03:56 AM

David

My guess is that the pamor is a very fine tight linear straight pattern similar to the other ones in my collection. I will post better pics once it arrives.

Lew

BluErf · 31st August 2006, 02:55 PM

Ah, this beauty!

Yes, a classical Terengganu keris. I think this one has pamor, probably ujung gunong and kulit semangka. However, I won't be surprised if it is a fancier pamor like "perut ular" combined with ujung gunong.

The pendoko is made of white brass. It's a distinctive Terengganu form.

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_photo.php

Lew · 2nd September 2006, 07:13 PM

Gentlemen

The keris arrived today and it's a beauty! I had to stabilize a couple of cracks in the hilt near where the tang enters the hilt but otherwise a very good buy.
Here are some pics.

Lew

Mapico1 · 2nd September 2006, 07:27 PM

Hi Lew,
it would have been my first keris.....unfortunately it ended in the middle of the night for me....

Danny

Flavio · 2nd September 2006, 07:40 PM

Lew, a true beauty!!! Congrats!!!!!

A. G. Maisey · 2nd September 2006, 10:52 PM

Bugis/Peninsula/Sumatera keris are not my forte, however, may I suggest that we are looking at a Bugis blade in Terengganu dress?

Note the flat faces to the blade, and the decline in the joint of gonjo to blade.

I may well be incorrect, but I do not believe these are typical Trengganu blade features, whilst they are typical of classic Bugis form.

BluErf · 3rd September 2006, 05:07 AM

The Bugis diaspora ended up in many parts of peninsula Malaysia and Sumatra, including Terengganu. Hence, it is not wrong to say that this is a Bugis or Bugis-influenced blade made in Terengganu. The Bugis blades made in Peninsula Malaysia tend to be 'finer' than most Sulawesi Bugis kerises, and 'sweeter', having absorbed the Malay sense of aesthetics. It may not be as macho, but it is more pleasing to the eyes.

On Peninsula Malaysia, I see 2 major forms of kerises - the Javanese-influenced forms and the Bugis influenced-forms. The more south you go, the more predominant the Bugis-influenced forms. The more north you go, we see greater presence of Javanese-influenced forms. Apart from this common Bugis Sepokal form, there is the carita and melela forms which excel in terms of the refinedness of the dapur and perabots.

Keris melela from Terengganu:
http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_photo.php

Keris Unduk-unduk from Terengganu
http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_photo.php

1st pic - Dave Henkel's keris melela

2nd and 3rd pic - Dave Henkel's keris carita

Bambang Irian · 3rd September 2006, 09:36 PM

It is a nice keris, verry good.

2nd September 2006, 07:13 PM	#3
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Gentlemen The keris arrived today and it's a beauty! I had to stabilize a couple of cracks in the hilt near where the tang enters the hilt but otherwise a very good buy. Here are some pics. Lew Attached Images

3rd September 2006, 05:07 AM	#7
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	The Bugis diaspora ended up in many parts of peninsula Malaysia and Sumatra, including Terengganu. Hence, it is not wrong to say that this is a Bugis or Bugis-influenced blade made in Terengganu. The Bugis blades made in Peninsula Malaysia tend to be 'finer' than most Sulawesi Bugis kerises, and 'sweeter', having absorbed the Malay sense of aesthetics. It may not be as macho, but it is more pleasing to the eyes. On Peninsula Malaysia, I see 2 major forms of kerises - the Javanese-influenced forms and the Bugis influenced-forms. The more south you go, the more predominant the Bugis-influenced forms. The more north you go, we see greater presence of Javanese-influenced forms. Apart from this common Bugis Sepokal form, there is the carita and melela forms which excel in terms of the refinedness of the dapur and perabots. Keris melela from Terengganu: http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_photo.php Keris Unduk-unduk from Terengganu http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_photo.php 1st pic - Dave Henkel's keris melela 2nd and 3rd pic - Dave Henkel's keris carita Attached Images Last edited by BluErf; 3rd September 2006 at 01:17 PM. Reason: bad sentence structure

28th August 2006, 03:56 AM	#1
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	David My guess is that the pamor is a very fine tight linear straight pattern similar to the other ones in my collection. I will post better pics once it arrives. Lew

31st August 2006, 02:55 PM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Ah, this beauty! Yes, a classical Terengganu keris. I think this one has pamor, probably ujung gunong and kulit semangka. However, I won't be surprised if it is a fancier pamor like "perut ular" combined with ujung gunong. The pendoko is made of white brass. It's a distinctive Terengganu form. http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_photo.php

2nd September 2006, 07:27 PM	#4
Mapico1 Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 86	Hi Lew, it would have been my first keris.....unfortunately it ended in the middle of the night for me.... Danny

2nd September 2006, 07:40 PM	#5
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Lew, a true beauty!!! Congrats!!!!!

2nd September 2006, 10:52 PM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,043	Bugis/Peninsula/Sumatera keris are not my forte, however, may I suggest that we are looking at a Bugis blade in Terengganu dress? Note the flat faces to the blade, and the decline in the joint of gonjo to blade. I may well be incorrect, but I do not believe these are typical Trengganu blade features, whilst they are typical of classic Bugis form.

3rd September 2006, 09:36 PM	#8
Bambang Irian Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 7	It is a nice keris, verry good.