Kampilan for comment

Battara · 19th August 2006, 09:38 PM

I am now the proud owner of this wonderful puppy!

The previous owner was kind enough to let me have it for what I could afford (maraming salamat!).

My question: I may try to restore it with whalebone (I may have access to again from previous owner). The whalebone guard it broken in half and there is evidence of holes for a metal guard. The 2 other whalebone kampilans previously shown on this forum have brass ones. I thought of this but with all of the silver work on this (I tested it all - it is all solid silver ) I wonder if the original metal guard was also silver. What do you think?

PS - the eyes on the naga on the mouth of the bone hilt are swaasa! (I tested them too). The scabbard that Bob tested is less than sterling but more than coin silver - really nice!

Flavio · 19th August 2006, 10:06 PM

Congratulations Jose!!!! This is a very wonderful piece!!! You have all the abilities to restore the guard with an excellent result!!!!

VANDOO · 19th August 2006, 11:29 PM

CONGRADULATIONS JOSE I HOPE YOU DON'T HAVE TO EAT BEANS AND RICE FOR TOO LONG

I WOULD DEFINITELY GO WITH A SILVER SNAKE GAURD LIKE THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE, PERHAPS EVEN A DOUBBLE ENTWINED SNAKE GAURD. I SUSPECT THAT MAY HAVE BEEN WHAT IT HAD ORIGINALLY. GOOD LUCK

I NOTICED THERE IS ONE OF THE GIANT MORO KRIS IN THE PICTURE OF THE SHOP, LOOKS LIKE AN INTERESTING PLACE.

Battara · 20th August 2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO

CONGRADULATIONS JOSE I HOPE YOU DON'T HAVE TO EAT BEANS AND RICE FOR TOO LONG

I WOULD DEFINITELY GO WITH A SILVER SNAKE GAURD LIKE THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE, PERHAPS EVEN A DOUBBLE ENTWINED SNAKE GAURD. I SUSPECT THAT MAY HAVE BEEN WHAT IT HAD ORIGINALLY. GOOD LUCK.

Regarding the beans and rice....well

.....I grew up on rice, but I will be giving more time I suspect toward restoration since I am job hunting now....still I saved up all my pennies all year for something like this.

Regarding the suggestion of a snake like guard - I too was considering that, with a double loop.....when great minds think a like...

Thank you both. I'm pleased as punch.

Battara · 22nd November 2006, 07:50 PM

Well folks, I did it - I finished the restoration of the guard of this puppy!
The bottom half is made of seacow bone sent to me from the previous owner (and I colored to better match the rest of the whalebone). Had to use silver pins since the whalebone was too porous for glue. The looped guard is silver in the form of 2 naga/snakes and the heads coming out of the other side facing each other with copper eyes (did my best on the heads

). Here are the pictures as promised.

Enjoy -

Spunjer · 22nd November 2006, 09:33 PM

simply incredible, jose! i really like the guard, in the form of snakes; but isn't that against Islamic belief, imitating the real animal? but i have to say tho; that's one heck of a kampy you got..

Battara · 24th November 2006, 06:45 PM

In the PI, the custom of no graven images has some laxity about it. I did this to match the silver ring of double headed snakes that holds the cloth mansala to the hilt (which was already present before I got it). A good point though, especially since okir has been used to do images stylistically.

22nd November 2006, 07:50 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Well folks, I did it - I finished the restoration of the guard of this puppy! The bottom half is made of seacow bone sent to me from the previous owner (and I colored to better match the rest of the whalebone). Had to use silver pins since the whalebone was too porous for glue. The looped guard is silver in the form of 2 naga/snakes and the heads coming out of the other side facing each other with copper eyes (did my best on the heads ). Here are the pictures as promised. Enjoy - Attached Images

19th August 2006, 09:38 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I am now the proud owner of this wonderful puppy! The previous owner was kind enough to let me have it for what I could afford (maraming salamat!). My question: I may try to restore it with whalebone (I may have access to again from previous owner). The whalebone guard it broken in half and there is evidence of holes for a metal guard. The 2 other whalebone kampilans previously shown on this forum have brass ones. I thought of this but with all of the silver work on this (I tested it all - it is all solid silver ) I wonder if the original metal guard was also silver. What do you think? PS - the eyes on the naga on the mouth of the bone hilt are swaasa! (I tested them too). The scabbard that Bob tested is less than sterling but more than coin silver - really nice!

19th August 2006, 10:06 PM	#2
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Congratulations Jose!!!! This is a very wonderful piece!!! You have all the abilities to restore the guard with an excellent result!!!!

19th August 2006, 11:29 PM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	CONGRADULATIONS JOSE I HOPE YOU DON'T HAVE TO EAT BEANS AND RICE FOR TOO LONG I WOULD DEFINITELY GO WITH A SILVER SNAKE GAURD LIKE THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE, PERHAPS EVEN A DOUBBLE ENTWINED SNAKE GAURD. I SUSPECT THAT MAY HAVE BEEN WHAT IT HAD ORIGINALLY. GOOD LUCK I NOTICED THERE IS ONE OF THE GIANT MORO KRIS IN THE PICTURE OF THE SHOP, LOOKS LIKE AN INTERESTING PLACE.

22nd November 2006, 09:33 PM	#6
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	simply incredible, jose! i really like the guard, in the form of snakes; but isn't that against Islamic belief, imitating the real animal? but i have to say tho; that's one heck of a kampy you got..

24th November 2006, 06:45 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	In the PI, the custom of no graven images has some laxity about it. I did this to match the silver ring of double headed snakes that holds the cloth mansala to the hilt (which was already present before I got it). A good point though, especially since okir has been used to do images stylistically.