Keris Surakarta today's buy.

David · 28th May 2026, 04:41 PM

Yes Martin, i also believe that it os worth preserving some keris even when they are very worn. I look forward to seeing this blade once it is fully cleaned and stained. I believe the wrongko can be restored to some a much nicer level as well, especially if you are skilled with French Polishing.
I find the mendhak rather interesting. Is any familiar with this form? I don't know that i have seen it before.

Sajen · 28th May 2026, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by David

I find the mendhak rather interesting. Is any familiar with this form? I don't know that i have seen it before.

Hi David,

I can't tell you more about this type of mendak, I know that this type is rather rarely seen, Alan has shown once this type in two threads, pics are attached. I also have a keris with this type, last pic.
Alan will be able to tell us more, hopefully.

Regards,
Detlef

Pendita65 · 29th May 2026, 08:48 AM

Hi David and Detlef,

What i was told by some Dutch collectors that it is a cage mendak from West Java and pretty rare.

And I truly hope to bring back some pamor with staining. Especially I have a lot Keris cleaned allready but not yet stained.

Regards, Martin

A. G. Maisey · Today, 04:57 AM

I'm a bit late to the party here, been away & very limited access to net & time.

I see this keris as a blade that might have been of some degree of quality at one time but has been largely eaten by time. The attention of a skilled m'ranggi might be able to bring some life back into it. Yeah, I know, a lot of out-of-culture keris collectors will be shocked by the idea of carrying out more than very minor surgery on an old, damaged blade.

This is not the attitude of a knowledgeable Javanese keris person. In Jawa the attitude is that we have a duty, an obligation to preserve an item of tosan aji for future generations, & this means active restoration where this is warranted.

This keris needs care & attention, not just staining.

I cannot accurately count the luk.
The visible luk come to 7, but that produces an unacceptably long distance from final luk to point, so originally this blade might have had 9 luk (current method of count).

I think that the blade is probably East Jawa, possibly Madura Sepuh. I would need it in hand to give a solid, defensible opinion.

The gayaman wrongko retains sufficient distinct characteristics to identify it as a generic gayaman that really, could come from anywhere on the Island of Jawa.

The original work does not permit a precise affixation to the Solo area of Jawa, but the overall form is perhaps possible to fit into a Gandon or Kagok Gabel or Gabel sub-classification of Central Javanese gayaman forms. It does tend towards something that might have originated in Banyumas, but I think that to give it as Banyumas might be stretching things a bit too far.

To comply with Javanese standards it should be given a complete strip, rebuild & polish. The same applies to the hilt & mendak --- but I'd tread gently with the hilt, this would need close examination under magnification before a final decision could be made.

If we accept that the Javanese people own their own culture, & that the Javanese keris is a part of that culture, I believe that we really should try, in-so-far as it is possible, to follow the Javanese line of thought when we meet up with a sad old piece of tosan aji:- bring life back into the keris and make it something that future generations will regard as worthwhile preserving.

28th May 2026, 04:41 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,295	Yes Martin, i also believe that it os worth preserving some keris even when they are very worn. I look forward to seeing this blade once it is fully cleaned and stained. I believe the wrongko can be restored to some a much nicer level as well, especially if you are skilled with French Polishing. I find the mendhak rather interesting. Is any familiar with this form? I don't know that i have seen it before.

29th May 2026, 08:48 AM	#3
Pendita65 Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 174	Hi David and Detlef, What i was told by some Dutch collectors that it is a cage mendak from West Java and pretty rare. And I truly hope to bring back some pamor with staining. Especially I have a lot Keris cleaned allready but not yet stained. Regards, Martin

Today, 04:57 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,223	I'm a bit late to the party here, been away & very limited access to net & time. I see this keris as a blade that might have been of some degree of quality at one time but has been largely eaten by time. The attention of a skilled m'ranggi might be able to bring some life back into it. Yeah, I know, a lot of out-of-culture keris collectors will be shocked by the idea of carrying out more than very minor surgery on an old, damaged blade. This is not the attitude of a knowledgeable Javanese keris person. In Jawa the attitude is that we have a duty, an obligation to preserve an item of tosan aji for future generations, & this means active restoration where this is warranted. This keris needs care & attention, not just staining. I cannot accurately count the luk. The visible luk come to 7, but that produces an unacceptably long distance from final luk to point, so originally this blade might have had 9 luk (current method of count). I think that the blade is probably East Jawa, possibly Madura Sepuh. I would need it in hand to give a solid, defensible opinion. The gayaman wrongko retains sufficient distinct characteristics to identify it as a generic gayaman that really, could come from anywhere on the Island of Jawa. The original work does not permit a precise affixation to the Solo area of Jawa, but the overall form is perhaps possible to fit into a Gandon or Kagok Gabel or Gabel sub-classification of Central Javanese gayaman forms. It does tend towards something that might have originated in Banyumas, but I think that to give it as Banyumas might be stretching things a bit too far. To comply with Javanese standards it should be given a complete strip, rebuild & polish. The same applies to the hilt & mendak --- but I'd tread gently with the hilt, this would need close examination under magnification before a final decision could be made. If we accept that the Javanese people own their own culture, & that the Javanese keris is a part of that culture, I believe that we really should try, in-so-far as it is possible, to follow the Javanese line of thought when we meet up with a sad old piece of tosan aji:- bring life back into the keris and make it something that future generations will regard as worthwhile preserving.