Executioner Sword

Perl · 16th January 2026, 07:45 PM

How about this one ?
107 cm , 2.2 kg

corrado26 · Yesterday, 09:01 AM

I assume this is a contemporary original. The completely nonsensical saying, dated 1633 and intended to give the tool a meaning, alone speaks for the time of its creation.

Perl · Yesterday, 02:49 PM

Yes, that is my conclusion too, as well as details etc., in addition, the Latin is misspelled which is said to be common at the time, it is probably German made.

corrado26 · Yesterday, 06:02 PM

The blacksmith was certainly not a trained expert on the Latin language and its orthography

Victrix · Today, 12:29 PM

In those days full literacy was probably constrained to the priesthood and legal counsels. The inscriptions are meant to say “Glory to God in the highest” and “St Mary patron of Thorens church.” My first guess was that it’s an execution sword of one of the catholic church city states where the head of state had to dispense punishments to maintain law and order. But there is in fact a castle Thorens in France where this sword may have been used. Struggled a bit with the word “Thorensis” which I take to mean “of Thorens.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Thorens

Perl · Today, 02:16 PM

Very interesting, trying to figure out where this sword was used - this is what the coat of arms on the sword looks like, maybe someone has an idea!

Akanthus · Today, 05:17 PM

Perhaps the polish city of Korun is ment.The city was called Thorn in the time when the area was German.

corrado26 · Today, 05:39 PM

30 Stivers / Daalder - Margaret IV van Brederode

I think this is the solution:

Netherland talerAbbey of Thorn

Abbess Margaret of Brederode (Margaretha van Brederode) (1557-1577)

Year 1563
Obverse
Standing Madonna with baby Jesus and scepter behind coat of arms of Brederode
Script: Latin
Lettering: SANCTA ★ MARIA ★ THORENSIS ★ ECCLESIÆ ★
Translation: Saint Mary, Church of Thorn

Akanthus · Today, 06:30 PM

But why an abbey should have an executener sword or even an executioner ? These executive tools are mostly refer to the jurisdiction of towns or nobility.In some cases they were property of the executioner himself and his name is to find on the blade.For me this sword is a original one.Many others you find in auctions or even in museums are made in historistic times in the second half of the 19 th.century.

16th January 2026, 07:45 PM	#1
Perl Member Join Date: Jan 2026 Posts: 3	Executioner Sword How about this one ? 107 cm , 2.2 kg Attached Images

Today, 02:16 PM	#6
Perl Member Join Date: Jan 2026 Posts: 3	Very interesting, trying to figure out where this sword was used - this is what the coat of arms on the sword looks like, maybe someone has an idea! Attached Images

Yesterday, 09:01 AM	#2
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,257	I assume this is a contemporary original. The completely nonsensical saying, dated 1633 and intended to give the tool a meaning, alone speaks for the time of its creation.

Yesterday, 02:49 PM	#3
Perl Member Join Date: Jan 2026 Posts: 3	Yes, that is my conclusion too, as well as details etc., in addition, the Latin is misspelled which is said to be common at the time, it is probably German made.

Yesterday, 06:02 PM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,257	The blacksmith was certainly not a trained expert on the Latin language and its orthography

Today, 12:29 PM	#5
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 771	In those days full literacy was probably constrained to the priesthood and legal counsels. The inscriptions are meant to say “Glory to God in the highest” and “St Mary patron of Thorens church.” My first guess was that it’s an execution sword of one of the catholic church city states where the head of state had to dispense punishments to maintain law and order. But there is in fact a castle Thorens in France where this sword may have been used. Struggled a bit with the word “Thorensis” which I take to mean “of Thorens.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Thorens

Today, 05:17 PM	#7
Akanthus Member Join Date: Mar 2023 Posts: 94	Perhaps the polish city of Korun is ment.The city was called Thorn in the time when the area was German.

Today, 05:39 PM	#8
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,257	30 Stivers / Daalder - Margaret IV van Brederode I think this is the solution: Netherland talerAbbey of Thorn Abbess Margaret of Brederode (Margaretha van Brederode) (1557-1577) Year 1563 Obverse Standing Madonna with baby Jesus and scepter behind coat of arms of Brederode Script: Latin Lettering: SANCTA ★ MARIA ★ THORENSIS ★ ECCLESIÆ ★ Translation: Saint Mary, Church of Thorn

Today, 06:30 PM	#9
Akanthus Member Join Date: Mar 2023 Posts: 94	But why an abbey should have an executener sword or even an executioner ? These executive tools are mostly refer to the jurisdiction of towns or nobility.In some cases they were property of the executioner himself and his name is to find on the blade.For me this sword is a original one.Many others you find in auctions or even in museums are made in historistic times in the second half of the 19 th.century.