Swedish knife info pls

[Tim Simmons]

Found this Swedish Mora knife. Clearly stamped Erik Frust. Quite interesting as google AI insists that Frust must be a miss spelling of Frost. Indeed the very same model of red painted birch handle knife is available from Frost in Mora called Frost No2. That model blade is 7mm shorter than my Frust knife, so what is going on. Sadly the belt loop has worn away. Nice painted "boiled ?" hard leather scabbard. As you can see boldy spamped Frust and no misstake. Any help?

[Tim Simmons]

Searching through Frost old cataloges this knife and scabbard, certainly the scabbard seems to have been in production from 1911 to 1940. Still the problem of Frust stamping?

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...iu4o91FZyDIPJl

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Still the problem of Frust stamping?

Hello Tim,

I am nearly sure that the "u" is a poorly stamped "o". The stamp completely is clearly the stamp from the Frost company.

Regards,
Detlef

[Sajen]

Compare!

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Quite interesting as google AI insists that Frust must be a miss spelling of Frost.

Agree complete with AI!

[Tim Simmons]

Yeah poor stamp looked with x10

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Yeah poor stamp looked with x10

Mystery solved!

[Rafngard]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Agree complete with AI!

Me too.

[Rick]

Detlef, that last picture of your's brought back memories for me. I had one of those Moras when I was a 14 year old, I bought it at the ship chandlers in Falmouth on Cape Cod in Massachusetts. Mine didn't have a Norwegian Scout embossed on the sheath.
For $5.00 I deemed it a great bargain at the time.
That was 65 years ago.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Rick

Detlef, that last picture of your's brought back memories for me. I had one of those Moras when I was a 14 year old, I bought it at the ship chandlers in Falmouth on Cape Cod in Massachusetts. Mine didn't have a Norwegian Scout embossed on the sheath.
For $5.00 I deemed it a great bargain at the time.
That was 65 years ago.

Hi Rick,

I guess it is a Swedish scout!

[Interested Party]

This and the recent puukko threads have opened up an interesting rabbit hole for me. It looked like a bad and worn stamp, but it made me think about all the Frost stamps I had seen and how to date them. I have not found a good timeline for the stamps yet but I have a theory that the E. Frost was first mark. Frost Erik Erikson lived from 1865-1924. The Frost brand lasted from 1891-2005 then merged with KJ Ericson to become Morakniv, The next mark is Eric Frost, and finally Frosts. The first mark I believe can be on the left or right of the blade. The Eric Frist mark is on the left side of the blade if you are holding it in normal grip. The Frosts mark is in the right side. The contemporary Morakniv mark is on the right as well. To throw wrench in this there may be Eric Frost knives made currently with the mark on the right. I found a source https://oldmora.blogspot.com/2021/11/Frost.html that I gleaned much of this information from. It appears that a pre 1930 knife should be a hand handmade in-house laminated steel, with all the metallurgical pluses and minuses these phrases imply. I.e. either much more to less durable than later blades even the laminated ones that were rolled and stamped. I would be curious to see if the pre-1930 knives possessed a distal taper. Interestingly there could be close to a billion of the various Frost knives floating around the world.

The first picture is from a 1911 catalogue. I cannot tell if this is a drawing or an actual picture. This is where I noticed that an E. Frost could be on the right side as well. The second shows an E. Frost left side stamp. The later pictures of worn knives with the simple handles are from my collection. The first of these I have carried on and off for about 20 years and may be on its third sheath with me. The new one is Kydex and may outlast me. We will see. They are all either laminated steel or a single carbon steel. The laminated ones have a higher Rockwell rating but still seem east to sharpen meaning that there are not a lot of additives to add toughness and wear resistance to the steel. I threw in a KJ Erikson for good measure in a pattern that Frost made as well. The Mora smiths seemed to overlap a good bit.

[Tim Simmons]

Great stuff thank you, really interesting. I have to say the blade on my knife is sharp and feels rock hard.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Interested Party

... The first picture is from a 1911 catalogue. I cannot tell if this is a drawing or an actual picture. ...

I believe the picture is by the photogravure method.

Nice research on these knives.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Interested Party

This and the recent puukko threads have opened up an interesting rabbit hole for me. It looked like a bad and worn stamp, but it made me think about all the Frost stamps I had seen and how to date them. I have not found a good timeline for the stamps yet but I have a theory that the E. Frost was first mark. Frost Erik Erikson lived from 1865-1924. The Frost brand lasted from 1891-2005 then merged with KJ Ericson to become Morakniv, The next mark is Eric Frost, and finally Frosts. The first mark I believe can be on the left or right of the blade. The Eric Frist mark is on the left side of the blade if you are holding it in normal grip. The Frosts mark is in the right side. The contemporary Morakniv mark is on the right as well. To throw wrench in this there may be Eric Frost knives made currently with the mark on the right. I found a source https://oldmora.blogspot.com/2021/11/Frost.html that I gleaned much of this information from. It appears that a pre 1930 knife should be a hand handmade in-house laminated steel, with all the metallurgical pluses and minuses these phrases imply. I.e. either much more to less durable than later blades even the laminated ones that were rolled and stamped. I would be curious to see if the pre-1930 knives possessed a distal taper. Interestingly there could be close to a billion of the various Frost knives floating around the world.

The first picture is from a 1911 catalogue. I cannot tell if this is a drawing or an actual picture. This is where I noticed that an E. Frost could be on the right side as well. The second shows an E. Frost left side stamp. The later pictures of worn knives with the simple handles are from my collection. The first of these I have carried on and off for about 20 years and may be on its third sheath with me. The new one is Kydex and may outlast me. We will see. They are all either laminated steel or a single carbon steel. The laminated ones have a higher Rockwell rating but still seem east to sharpen meaning that there are not a lot of additives to add toughness and wear resistance to the steel. I threw in a KJ Erikson for good measure in a pattern that Frost made as well. The Mora smiths seemed to overlap a good bit.

Hello IP,

Good research on these knives! I also own a few, by interest of Scandinavian scout knives. I have one older piece and I guess a more recent one, the one with laminated steel.
The Norwegian Bergans knife is worked from Frost as well like I researched in the past.

Regards,
Detlef