lapin-puukko (aka puukko) revisited

[gp]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Thats unfortunate, not unusual here though. Seems like a looked these up recently, my son in law has Lapp ancestry.

than this maybe interesting for him; the mentioned link is inactive

Originally Posted by Otso

There are lots of different models of puukkos depending of use and area where they are coming;
this is a short list i borrowed from webpages of Taisto Kuortti.
http://personal.inet.fi/koti/taisto....ypit.htm#etela

but this one is and contains 6 pages

https://www.taistokuortti.com/artikkeli1.htm

[Interested Party]

Interesting. I hate I missed the information in your original post. I don't understand why people delete information from the archive. I made a Lapp inspired style of knife in the early 90s, it was not a big seller, but a very good work knife. It makes me believe that most people don't really use the knives they buy.

[David R]

Apologies for the poor photo's, these are the ones taken on the day of purchase as a record of where when and how much, and always meant to be upgraded later.

[gp]

Originally Posted by Interested Party

Interesting. I hate I missed the information in your original post. I don't understand why people delete information from the archive. I made a Lapp inspired style of knife in the early 90s, it was not a big seller, but a very good work knife. It makes me believe that most people don't really use the knives they buy.

well hereby again;

it does not look like the standard or usual ones with either horse or (more modern) straight handle but the blade clearly is a puuko. total lenght 14 cm
The grip and scabbard is made of bone with reindeer inscription (Svalbard? perhaps...)

[David R]

Nice one, and worth leaving in place. I have commented before that I wish we had a "like button" (as has the infamous Bacefook) to indicate engagement and appreciation.
I currently have a post here with nearly 2,000 views and no comments, but what does that indicate, lack of interest or merely that people feel I have covered all the relevant points and no more need to be said?

[gp]

Originally Posted by David R

Nice one, and worth leaving in place. I have commented before that I wish we had a "like button" (as has the infamous Bacefook) to indicate engagement and appreciation.
I currently have a post here with nearly 2,000 views and no comments, but what does that indicate, lack of interest or merely that people feel I have covered all the relevant points and no more need to be said?

I like ( and my apologies for deleting...)

[gp]

just got lucky and found another 2 which look to have quite some age to it and differ a little from the standard types...
Concerning the 2nd one; I think the leather scabbard does not belong originally to it, but I guess I might also be mistaken....

your thoughts please, thank you very much!

[Jim McDougall]

This is a great topic, and in the height of coincidence, browsing through an antique shop yesterday, first time in many months, I found this!
As I mentioned, this is an intriguing area to me, very esoteric and little from this culture comes up except in far northern areas of US.

This small 'puukko' is apparently from far northern regions of Finland, in Sami inhabited regions known familiarly as Lapland. The Sami are of Finno-Ugric group who live also in Arctic regions of Norway, Sweden, and Kola Peninsula region of Russia.

As an animist society, the prevalence of symbolism and Noaidi (shamen) are notable, and as the reindeer is the mainstay of much of their culture, it is understandable that is often represented in their material culture.

As I understand (and always look forward to corrections as this is not a primary field of study for me) the puukko is a knife often in larger proportion than this one, which is small and in my perception probably for woodworking and/or detailed work, possibly even as used in eating trousseu.

These are believed to be termed lapinpuukko, while the larger versions used for utility and field dressing of game are termed leuku?

The length overall 8.5" with 3" blade, the scabbard and hilt reindeer bone, carved with reindeer, four petal flower (?) and curious heart shaped device.
As I was informed, this was along with several other items out of a museum in Michigan, and according to the curator late 19th c.

The painting of a Sami man , by Francois -Auguste Baird (1799-1882) was from his presence on a scientific expedition led by Joseph Paul Gaimard in 1839 to Spitsbergen and Lappland. His fiancee, Leonie d'Aunet published account in 1854 of this journey titled "Voyage d'une femme au Spitsberg", as had accompanied Baird.
Another painting shows a fight with polar bears, which were another local threat in these Arctic regions.

The styling of this puukko example is known as DUODJI, popular in Sami handicrafts. While the Christian Faith (Lutheran) is nominally followed, the animist religion remains traditionally in place, and references to sacred places termed 'saivo' are referring to locations where ritual practices take place. Naturally there are variations as those Sami who follow reindeer herds are nomadic while others are in set regions.

I hope this might just add some perspective I have found pertaining to these fascinating knives, and certainly has given me a deeper appreciation for them.

Images of the example I found, the Baird painting, and obverse side. In the figure, hard to see, is one of these smaller knives in the waistband.
With pink background, one of these in DUODJI context which has a small drinking cup attached.

[Norman McCormick]

could the name be Morakniv Garberg ? or maybe here is a name:
https://www.chuckhawks.com/scandinavian_knives-2.html

I used to have the top one in green; it was my mother's given to her by my grandfather in the mid 1930ies...
Unfortunately it got stolen when I was ridding on motorbike to the Adriatic sea 1985....I would have easily traded one of my yataghans to get it back but fortunately I found one in what was once the good Ol'U S of A and its on its way to me....



Hi GP,
Thanks for your interest and the website link. I did look into the horse head Puukko sometime ago and determined it was possibly from the 30's, makes sense re your mother's. Thanks again .
My Regards,
Norman.

[Norman McCormick]

Hi,
I've got a couple of these Finnish and Norwegian I believe. I did have another one which I got in 1959 when my grandfather took me to Norway, I have Norwegian heritage via my father. I was only 7 yrs old but my grandfather said it was time I had a knife of my own, goodness knows what the current attitude would be!!!!! Unfortunately I cannot find my knife got lost over the past 60 odd years.
Regards,
Norman.


P.S. If anybody can i.d the maker of the Norwegian style knife I would be grateful.

[gp]

Originally Posted by Norman McCormick

Hi,
I've got a couple of these Finnish and Norwegian I believe. I did have another one which I got in 1959 when my grandfather took me to Norway, I have Norwegian heritage via my father. I was only 7 yrs old but my grandfather said it was time I had a knife of my own, goodness knows what the current attitude would be!!!!! Unfortunately I cannot find my knife got lost over the past 60 odd years.
Regards,
Norman.


P.S. If anybody can i.d the maker of the Norwegian style knife I would be grateful.

could the name be Morakniv Garberg ? or maybe here is a name:
https://www.chuckhawks.com/scandinavian_knives-2.html

I used to have the top one in green; it was my mother's given to her by my grandfather in the mid 1930ies...
Unfortunately it got stolen when I was ridding on motorbike to the Adriatic sea 1985....I would have easily traded one of my yataghans to get it back but fortunately I found one in what was once the good Ol'U S of A and its on its way to me....

[gp]

Originally Posted by Norman McCormick

Hi,



P.S. If anybody can i.d the maker of the Norwegian style knife I would be grateful.

could it be :

https://www.knivesofthenorth.com/collections/stromeng

[Interested Party]

Originally Posted by gp

well hereby again;

it does not look like the standard or usual ones with either horse or (more modern) straight handle but the blade clearly is a puuko. total lenght 14 cm
The grip and scabbard is made of bone with reindeer inscription (Svalbard? perhaps...)

Nice knife. Thanks for reposting these examples. From the little I know Sami does seem like a good bet. It looks backwards in the sheath. In some respects, it reminds me of knives marked Norge from Geilo Norway , but they always seem to have leather scabbards, brass ferules, and handles that bulge in the middle. The older versions do not have a ricasso like your examples. The reindeer theme is on both your examples and these commercially made knives. I do not know enough to speculate on the direction the scrimshaw type decoration traveled in culturally. Maybe this is why I have seen the Geilo knives mislabeled as Sami.

[gp]

double....sorry !