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Old 13th August 2025, 05:58 AM   #1
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Slight correction, I believe you will find it was Henry Angelo not Harry.
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Old 13th August 2025, 08:46 AM   #2
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Hey Jim, for some odd reason the dealer and auction world of the UK has been saturated with sword-sticks of late. The variety of blades used is legion; many full length, and some no more a a foot long. A heavily weighted top to the stick was also popular.
Of course, carrying either one is strictly illegal in this country where we have to give the criminals and the thugs a decent chance; anything else is hardly cricket, is it?
Your example is extremely rare; most are trefoil or slim lenticular.
I came across this example which mystified me for a while, not being privy to the traditions of societies. It was missing the vital element of course, but once revealed, the mystery was actually more stimulating than the explanation.
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Old 13th August 2025, 09:44 AM   #3
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In Germany allone possession is forbidden by a very strict gun law.
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Old 13th August 2025, 02:38 PM   #4
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Thank you so much gents!
One of the biggest problems I have had in acquiring one of these has been of course the legality issue. Naturally my quest has been to find a historic weapon for 'historic' study, but of course many laws have little reasonable meter in typical verbatim application, and characteristically are followed to the latter by plebian officials.
OK, that might have been a rant!

Keith, thank you for noting the blade. That was key in this! It is an early rapier blade rather than the trefoil type found in small swords mostly of the 18th century. While this is of course Victorian, it begs the question, how did the maker of this interesting example come to use such an early blade?
The 'anchor' symbol is of course among the variations used in Solingen in following the Spanish tradition using these, usually at the terminus of the fuller.

It seems there are certain variations of these devices by the numbers of arms and their varying widths as well as separations and other elements, but no particular study has been done as far as I know. It would be interesting to discover a comparison of this example on an intact rapier, but there is the dreaded 'needle in a haystack' axiom

It seems to me you once had a swordstick with Aiala blade?

This is a superb example, as the echelon of gentlemen carrying these sword sticks were typically trained and skilled in swordsmanship, and would have held such an esteemed blade in high honor and tradition.
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Old 13th August 2025, 02:45 PM   #5
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Slight correction, I believe you will find it was Henry Angelo not Harry.

touche' Toaster!! Importantly noted, and corrected.
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Old 13th August 2025, 06:27 PM   #6
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I use a search engine that posts UK dealer's products. It is obviously not fully comprehensive but it gives some indication.
There are 162 for sale at present with prices ranging from £3,950 down to £275.
Brigg of London appears to be the top maker. Here's the expensive one:
Mahdi of Khartoum walking stick sword stick.
On the silver collar is having the illustrious name Brigg of London. Hallmarked for 1902 made from Ebony Malachite silver horn and bone with a fine steel blade, overall condition is superb with no damage whatsoever a truly finely made of exceptional quality walking aid. Above the Briggs silver collar is a smaller one with what looks like Arabic symbols. This is the Flagship for anyone's collection. Total length of 94 cm diameter of handle is 5 cm the ebony sticks diameter from handle being 18 mm tapering down to the bottom 12 mm, from steel tip to the top of the handle is 85 cm.
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£1,500 will get you one with a silver mustache comb and mirror secreted in the vulcanite handle. Obligatory in 1888 Birmingham!
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Old 13th August 2025, 08:07 PM   #7
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Thanks Keith! My guess is that due to the ever heightening legal mandates toward weapons, and the 'concealed' syndrome, there are efforts to unload these items out of stock fearing confiscation.

It does seem intriguing to note the numbers of these accessory/weapons that clearly were in circulation. One goal here was to learn more on the history and actual use of the sword cane/stick, and try to recognize how much 'lore' surrounds them.

The study and formal training of sword fighting techniques and formal fencing became well established in the 18th century, but by the last quarter of the 19th had become well rounded martial arts training. These included boxing, often fencing as well as 'cane fighting'. With similarities to fencing in some respects, it was basically use of the cudgel it seems, and was seen as 'gentlemanly' as it did not typically focus on deadly results.

The use of a concealed blade inside a fashionable accessory with specific purpose of the deadly thrust was seen by many as distinctly 'un-gentlemanly'.

With the sword cane, its use as a swashbuckling trope in the image of the formidable gentleman, or dandy, seems to have found its place in literature or sensational narratives as in some of the accounts of Lord Byron as previously mentioned.

While the sword cane was never mentioned in any of the Zorro literature or early films, it was brought in with the Antonio Banderas film "The Mark of Zorro" and was used effectively as a trope heightening his disguise as a noble dandy.

Apparently in the corpus of Holmes literature and films, though Holmes is suggested to be a skilled swordsman, Conan Doyle does not have him using the sword cane (much to my dismay in my misremembering).

However in "Adventure of the Empty House" (1903), as Holmes recounts his victory over Professor Moriarity at Reichenbach Falls, by crediting his knowledge of 'Baritsu', a study in martial arts of the times. It seems this suggested to later writers that he had used a sword cane.

Actually 'Baritsu' (misspelled) was BARTITSU, from Edwin William Barton- Wright, an English engineer who had developed a combined martial arts regimen including boxing, ju-jitsu, French kick boxing (savate) and CANE FIGHTING in 1898-1902. He had lived in Japan several years and named his method BART-ITSU combining his name and jitsu from the Japanese art.

The walking stick without the concealed sword element became a common trope for the elegant gentleman, and a personalized form of art often in these important accessories of status and wealth.

In an old movie favorite "The Wolf Man" (Lon Chaney Jr. 1941) the lead character is Larry Talbot (Talbot is a term for a breed of hunting dog) and is taken with a walking stick he finds in a local antique shop.
Its handle, the head of a wolf. (OK guys, here I go again with the wolves!).
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I know this is not about sword-sticks, but duels and Byron have been mentioned so I thought I would tack this in. Being a smallsword duel I included this story in my book. I found it intriguing, especially the bit about Byron's sentence and the Statute of Edward VI. If anyone knows what that is, I would be obliged if they would explain it for me.

A very interesting small-sword duel took place on January 26, I765, between Lord Byron and his neighbour and distant cousin Mr. Chaworth. These gentlemen were dining with others at the Star and Garter Tavern in Pall Mall about seven in the evening when the conversation turned upon the subject of game on their estates (precise story varies). This resulted in a drunken altercation, after which Lord Byron left the room, and meeting Mr. Chaworth in the passage stated that he wished to speak with him.
He then called a waiter and asked if there were any room disengaged. The waiter showed them to an unoccupied room and left them with a candle, which was all the light in the apartment except a dull fire. As Mr. Chaworth turned round after shutting the door, he perceived Lord Byron with his sword half drawn, who instantly exclaimed "Draw." Mr. Chaworth immediately complied, and at the first thrust his sword passed through Lord Byron's waistcoat, and he thought he had wounded him, when Lord Byron, shortening his sword, gave him a fatal wound. A struggle then took place between the parties, for they were found grasped in each other's arms by the landlord and waiter, who, hearing the noise, hurriedly entered the room.
A surgeon was immediately sent for, who pronounced the Chaworth wound mortal, the sword having entered on the left side of the stomach, and, passing obliquely upwards, had made its exit five or six inches higher on the left side of the back.
It appears that when Mr. Chaworth's sword passed through the waistcoat of his antagonist, he expressed his apprehension that he had seriously wounded him. Now under such an apprehension it is probable that he was thrown off his guard and Lord Byron quickly shortened his sword and ran him through.
Writhing under the agonies of his wound, Mr. Chaworth several times declared that, although he well knew that he was in immediate danger of death, he had rather be in his present situation than live under the misfortune of having killed another person. He also observed that when, after closing the door, he turned round, he perceived that Lord Byron's sword was half-drawn and knowing his man, he drew his own as quickly as he could, and had the first pass at him.
After three months incarceration the House of Lords found William, Lord Byron, "not guilty of the felony of murder, but of manslaughter," and his lordship, being a Peer and claiming the Benefit of Clergy and the statute of Edward VI., was discharged after paying his fees.
The two swords involved were preserved: at Annesley, and Newstead.
nb. About 300 aristocrats a year died of duels in France in the 1600s.
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Old 14th August 2025, 12:12 AM   #9
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Jim, it saddens me to see that you have altered the name of Henry Charles William Malevolti/Angelo from your initial use of "Harry" to "Henry". Harry was baptised with his Italian father's family name, "Malevolti", but his father later adopted the name "Angelo" as his family name, and young Harry followed suit.

In fact, taking into account the time & place where Harry Angelo lived, your use of "Harry" was quite correct and it reflects correct historical use of the English Language. Harry Angelo was born in the mid-18th century.

Now fast forward to our beloved & well known Prince Henry Charles Albert David of Wales. When Prince Harry was born to Charles & Diana, he was baptised as I have noted, however Charles & Diana adopted the very ancient English royal practice of using the name "Harry" rather than the baptismal name of "Henry".

The use of "Harry", rather than "Henry" reflects the pronunciation of "Henry" in Middle English, it has been English Royal practice to use "Harry" for princes & monarchs for a very long time. Other English nobles followed the royal lead.

Harry Angelo attended Eton, & later, as a master of fence, his clients were mostly English upper & ruling class, any "Henry" that Harry Angelo came in contact with would have been addressed as "Harry". The use of "Harry" in the written form simply reflected the pronunciation of "Henry", & followed the royal lead in this respect.

In Shakespeare's England the use of "Harry" rather than "Henry" in the written form was usual. In fact, at that time, "Harry" was very often abbreviated to "Hal".

The Oxford English dictionary advises that "Harry" is the familiar form of "Henry". English coinage issued under Henry VIII was referred to as a Harry groat, or a Harry sovereign or a Harry (some other coin).

If you had been face to face with Harry Angelo & you addressed him as Henry, I rather feel that he might not have recognised that you were indeed addressing him.

I think I will continue to think of this fencing master as Harry, Henry seems a little bit unrealistic.
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Interesting case, and it would take quite a bit of complicated research trying to wade through the complexities of English law in those times.
As near as I can guess, Lord Byrons status was key in the matter, and it seems as if his light sentence was the result of tenuous legal machinations.

I dont believe there was a specific 'statute' under Edward VI, whose short reign ended with his death at 15 in 1553, and the Lady Jane Grey issue.
The 'benefit of clergy' element had to do possibly with Lord Byrons peerage and matters of what is known as 'legal fiction' which I would best describe as 'abstract' legal protocol.

I think the outcome of Lord Byrons sentence is more aligned with the 'judicial duel', trial by combat, in England known as 'wager of battle', in which the winner in effect is shown as 'right'. Somehow these convolutions elementally absolved him of criminal wrongdoing.

Thats about the best I can come up with, and actually it is salient despite not involving a sword cane, but the outcome is essentially the same. Not sure when this combat took place, but the wager of battle law/statute ended in 1819.
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Alan, thank you so much for this elucidation regarding the familiar use of the name Harry for the formal name Henry in these times (mid 18thc) which is fascinating.
While I'd love to take credit accordingly, my error was entirely inadvertent, as I knew full well all the fencing references I have consulted over decades,(Egerton, 1885; Aylward, 1945) even to my own days training always referred to Henry Angelo.

These kinds of familiar and linguistic usages are truly fascinating to me, and often can be key in philological studies. Entries like yours are what I always hope for, and to learn. Thank you again,

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