Balinese Keris with 2 Pamor

[Athanase]

So it's probably an old East Javanese blade.
Are long blades over 40cm common in East Java?
Is it possible to relate it stylistically more precisely to a Tanghu?
I am aware that it is very worn and that the Greneng as well as the Kembang Kacang have disappeared.

[A. G. Maisey]

I do incline to East Jawa for this blade, but there are insufficient indicators to be too definite about that. What I can be a little more definite about is that I can see nothing in the elements of style or construction that point to it having been made in Bali itself.

Tangguh is an opinion on origin, it is a classification system that uses certain indicators to form the basis for an opinion on where the blade might have originated.

We normally use about a dozen or so indicators, and only a couple of those indicators rely completely on the appearance of the blade, I cannot give a firm opinion on this blade from just a photo on a computer screen.

[David]

Alan, i am curious what you thoughts might be on my blade concerning origin. As i stated, the dress seems to have been made for it, but i remain on the fence regarding where the blade may have been made.

[A. G. Maisey]

Pretty much the same as for Athanase David, except that if I look at it as a whole I'd incline more to Lombok.

The reason for this variation is that Athanase's blade does have a couple of indicators that are Mojo in style --- not age, but style, the upright blumbangan, the slow luk. Your blade has a squarish blumbangan, still has slow luk, similar pamor, but it does not look even vaguely Mojoish to my eye.

Lombok had a population of people from Jawa, Bali, Bugis & of course the Sasaks. In my opinion, more likely to be Lombok, but there is nothing that waves a Bali flag.

Like much to do with keris, its just opinion, & opinions rest upon experience. Somebody with equal but different experience to my own could have a different opinion.

[henri]

An other one I got from one of our famous member !

[Gavin Nugent]

Originally Posted by henri

An other one I got from one of our famous member !

Famous member?

[Sajen]

Hello David,

Have you overlooked my question in #5?

[David]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Pretty much the same as for Athanase David, except that if I look at it as a whole I'd incline more to Lombok.

The reason for this variation is that Athanase's blade does have a couple of indicators that are Mojo in style --- not age, but style, the upright blumbangan, the slow luk. Your blade has a squarish blumbangan, still has slow luk, similar pamor, but it does not look even vaguely Mojoish to my eye.

Lombok had a population of people from Jawa, Bali, Bugis & of course the Sasaks. In my opinion, more likely to be Lombok, but there is nothing that waves a Bali flag.

Like much to do with keris, its just opinion, & opinions rest upon experience. Somebody with equal but different experience to my own could have a different opinion.

Thanks Alan. I have been going under the Lombok assumption for some time with this keris, but i am always open to different opinions.