A spanish-mexican type large bowie knife ?

[Interested Party]

Originally Posted by milandro

the clip point and the fuller do look similar and I have been also thinking that I had seen the pommel on some Indonesian made weapon , I think that the key to identify is in the identification of the punch stamped mark.

Shaver cool?
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ool#post282150

I think Mexican may be the correct answer. A clearer picture of the stamp could help.

[werecow]

I don't know how to date these as I focus mainly on swords, but staying in the Americas for a moment, could it have been influenced by the American adoption of the klewang during WWII perhaps?

[milandro]

if these knives are Mexican they are most likely to be influenced by the Bowie itself .

After all James Bowie died at Alamo!

[gp]

forget Bowie...talking Mexico... Zapata is the man
( and as we all are speculating......why not perhaps could it not be influenced by Austrian / Habsburgian cold arms...thinking of Maximilian I of Mexico )

[Marius66]

Hello everybody,
The Indonesian with Dutch influence clue seems the right one ,
Here are the other pictures I received,
I can read TIJBAT,
TIJ for Tijkeroe as proposed by Milandro ?

[Marius66]

And the bird head pommel clearly looks like the Batavian model linked , thank you !
A garuda head ?!!

[Marius66]

For comparison,
I found this ''similar'' one , the central piece , in another old post about klewangs/kalewangs and the regulation models

[francantolin]

Hello,
TJIBAT simply for TJIBATOE... 😁

[milandro]

thanks to the better pictures and the detective work on Tjbatoe look very conclusive to me.