opinions on this keris

Sakhti777 · 30th January 2005, 02:15 AM

You can

, it takes almost whole of your life-time.

Sang Keris · 30th January 2005, 02:25 AM

btw , i don't think any of sepang's "pendita kembar " made in 1900...

they're much older than that..... singosari ..and the other one could be tuban or majapahit..

except for that "twin Giant baby".....that one could be not too old ..

Sepang · 30th January 2005, 04:05 AM

Baby Pandhita

Perhaps they need to take a rest for a while

Montino wrote : ,"..... I realize that this is very subjective, but at a certain level I feel that since much has been said about the spiritual effects of keris, it is important to consider it....."

Yes, I think he right that the spiritual effects of the keris is very subjective, so that we can discus it in here......, about the "Chi" too.
I'm sorry I can give an opinion. It could be a personal experiences

.....Spesificaly if we have some keris with mystical dapor like Puthut Kembar, Nogo Siluman etc.

Shakti, my Puthut Kembar kerisses, except "twin Giant baby" (like Sang Keris said

) ), are an old kerisses. But... which of my kerisses can be called fake or real ?

It is so difficult, 'cause we dont know with clear... was it made by Mpu or just modificated by now

...Yes.... maybe it's only a personal experience.

Andrew · 30th January 2005, 05:01 AM

Perhaps I'm being too sensitive, or maybe I'm just not familiar with the personalities of some of our newer members. However, some of the posts in this thread irritate me.

Civility is required on this board. It might be a good idea to hang around a bit and allow folks to get to know you before coming on strong.

Otherwise, you run the risk of having your humor mistaken for rudeness.

BluErf · 30th January 2005, 12:55 PM

Hey, isn't posting of pictures of kerises with chi and tuah bad for them? Be careful of posting too many such pictures, or the energy may flee the vessels and look for a quieter abodes in other new old keris where they can reside in peace and seclusion.

Montino Bourbon · 30th January 2005, 03:36 PM

Dear BluErf; I love your expression 'new old keris'!

And while I'm delighted at finding out about what I have, I'm also delighted at the fact that I feel a lot of energy from this keris, and others. I think that it is very subjective, but as I have said before I believe that the 'chi' of an object such as a keris depends on the interaction between it and the person it's 'related' to.

It's just like holding a picture of a person you love and holding the actual person!

Please excuse my highly un-orthodox views; I'm enjoying this forum immensely, and I want to thank again everybody who has contributed to what has turned out to be a very spirited discussion.

Sepang · 30th January 2005, 03:53 PM

Dear all, spesificaly to Montino,

I like that this thread give many kind opinions, so that I can learn more about keris.
I'm sorry if I have mistake that I wrote to any one in this thread.

BlueErf... I like your opinion, "......... be careful of posting too many such pictures, or the energy may flee the vessels and look for a quieter abodes in other new old keris where they can reside in peace and seclusion...."

Sorry, if I post many photos, but I was prison the Chi or tuah of my kerisses in my heart

Regards

nechesh · 30th January 2005, 03:43 PM

Very wise words Kai Wee.

Sakhti, i am curious about how you manage to read chi from an internet photo. You must be powerful indeed. I have been doing energy work for years, but i always feel more comfortable actual holding a piece before proclaiming it's level of energy.

Sepang, you have shown us some interesting examples. The first one, which Sang Keris calls "green iron" is very interesting, but i wonder about it's condition. It certainly appears old. I have keris in my collection that are nearly 500 yrs. old that don't look like this. This one appears to have been excavated from the ground. I wonder why a keris of this powerful mystical type would have fallen into such bad care or been buried under ground. Do you know the history of where it was found.
You "baby tree" example appears to me to be an older blade that was altered with these carvings at a later date, but the examples you show in the middle may well be authentic. I am afraid i lack Sakhti's skills to be able to determine this from your photos.

30th January 2005, 02:25 AM	#2
Sang Keris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Indonesia Posts: 46	btw , i don't think any of sepang's "pendita kembar " made in 1900... they're much older than that..... singosari ..and the other one could be tuban or majapahit.. except for that "twin Giant baby".....that one could be not too old .. Last edited by Sang Keris; 30th January 2005 at 06:22 AM.

30th January 2005, 02:15 AM	#1
Sakhti777 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Penang Posts: 14	You can , it takes almost whole of your life-time.

30th January 2005, 04:05 AM	#3
Sepang Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 33	Baby Pandhita Perhaps they need to take a rest for a while Montino wrote : ,"..... I realize that this is very subjective, but at a certain level I feel that since much has been said about the spiritual effects of keris, it is important to consider it....." Yes, I think he right that the spiritual effects of the keris is very subjective, so that we can discus it in here......, about the "Chi" too. I'm sorry I can give an opinion. It could be a personal experiences .....Spesificaly if we have some keris with mystical dapor like Puthut Kembar, Nogo Siluman etc. Shakti, my Puthut Kembar kerisses, except "twin Giant baby" (like Sang Keris said ) ), are an old kerisses. But... which of my kerisses can be called fake or real ? It is so difficult, 'cause we dont know with clear... was it made by Mpu or just modificated by now ...Yes.... maybe it's only a personal experience.

30th January 2005, 05:01 AM	#4
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Perhaps I'm being too sensitive, or maybe I'm just not familiar with the personalities of some of our newer members. However, some of the posts in this thread irritate me. Civility is required on this board. It might be a good idea to hang around a bit and allow folks to get to know you before coming on strong. Otherwise, you run the risk of having your humor mistaken for rudeness.

30th January 2005, 12:55 PM	#5
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hey, isn't posting of pictures of kerises with chi and tuah bad for them? Be careful of posting too many such pictures, or the energy may flee the vessels and look for a quieter abodes in other new old keris where they can reside in peace and seclusion.

30th January 2005, 03:36 PM	#6
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 301	Dear BluErf; I love your expression 'new old keris'! And while I'm delighted at finding out about what I have, I'm also delighted at the fact that I feel a lot of energy from this keris, and others. I think that it is very subjective, but as I have said before I believe that the 'chi' of an object such as a keris depends on the interaction between it and the person it's 'related' to. It's just like holding a picture of a person you love and holding the actual person! Please excuse my highly un-orthodox views; I'm enjoying this forum immensely, and I want to thank again everybody who has contributed to what has turned out to be a very spirited discussion.

30th January 2005, 03:53 PM	#7
Sepang Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 33	Dear all, spesificaly to Montino, I like that this thread give many kind opinions, so that I can learn more about keris. I'm sorry if I have mistake that I wrote to any one in this thread. BlueErf... I like your opinion, "......... be careful of posting too many such pictures, or the energy may flee the vessels and look for a quieter abodes in other new old keris where they can reside in peace and seclusion...." Sorry, if I post many photos, but I was prison the Chi or tuah of my kerisses in my heart Regards

30th January 2005, 03:43 PM	#8
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Very wise words Kai Wee. Sakhti, i am curious about how you manage to read chi from an internet photo. You must be powerful indeed. I have been doing energy work for years, but i always feel more comfortable actual holding a piece before proclaiming it's level of energy. Sepang, you have shown us some interesting examples. The first one, which Sang Keris calls "green iron" is very interesting, but i wonder about it's condition. It certainly appears old. I have keris in my collection that are nearly 500 yrs. old that don't look like this. This one appears to have been excavated from the ground. I wonder why a keris of this powerful mystical type would have fallen into such bad care or been buried under ground. Do you know the history of where it was found. You "baby tree" example appears to me to be an older blade that was altered with these carvings at a later date, but the examples you show in the middle may well be authentic. I am afraid i lack Sakhti's skills to be able to determine this from your photos.