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|  4th August 2023, 08:42 AM | #1 | 
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			Nenggala is, I believe, North Coast Jawa terminology for this blade form, in Central Jawa it is known as a "Cis" (pron. : "chis"). The Javanese word "cis" means "angkus" or "elephant goad". In East Jawa it is known as "pancing buaya" = "crocodile fish hook", for the very good reason that it was used as a crocodile spear. In parts of East Jawa these were still being made & used as crocodile spears up until about 1950. Interestingly, the word "nenggala" means "plough" in some dialects & in Balinese, it does not take much imagination to understand the similarity in form of this blade shape to the shape of a Javanese/Balinese plough blade. Gustav Do we know where in Raffles that this word "nenggala" appears, & if it is connected to a picture of the implement under discussion? Amongst the plates following P296, Vol.1 there is picture of a spear that has a "forked" head, both double & single examples, that is very vaguely similar to the nenggala, but it is identified as a "tumpuling". This name might indicate it is some sort of hunting spear : "tumpu/numpu" means to hunt , I think specifically to hunt deer --- these are guesses, but informed guesses. Last edited by A. G. Maisey; 4th August 2023 at 09:22 AM. | 
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|  4th August 2023, 09:56 AM | #2 | 
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			Alan, I couldn't find the name Nenggala in Raffles' book. Regarding Tumpuling, there is a similar spear in Radya Pustaka Museum, in it's description it is called Cempuling. Wiktionary says, Cempuling is a variation of Tempuling (https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/cempuling), and Tempuling is given as tombak pendek untuk menangkap ikan besar, short spear for catching big fish. | 
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|  4th August 2023, 11:09 AM | #3 | 
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			Thanks Gustav, that all seems together pretty nicely, we can to a large extent ignore minor variation in spellings with Javanese, the language is not a standardised language, it is tuned to verbal communication rather than written communication. When we look at the way in which these types of spears are referred to by varying names, it does, I think, demonstrate quite clearly why we should not ever be too certain that any one name is the only correct one. | 
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|  4th August 2023, 09:04 PM | #4 | |
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|  4th August 2023, 10:21 PM | #5 | 
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			Albert, it's private, but you can trust it as far as one can trust a picture and a description from an older museum, in this case the second oldest in Indonesia, a serious institution for the circumstances. | 
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|  4th August 2023, 11:01 PM | #6 | 
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			Thank you all for your valuable information   If anyone can find additional information or especially pictures, that would be great! | 
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|  4th August 2023, 11:09 PM | #7 | 
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			Well, pictures of the Tombak, which apparently was collected in Borneo.
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|  6th August 2023, 10:29 PM | #9 | 
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			Tombak Luk Pamor Keleng Dhapur Cempuling Tangguh Majapahit Landeyan Kayu Waru | 
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|  7th August 2023, 11:34 AM | #10 | 
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|  7th August 2023, 12:14 PM | #11 | 
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			Albert, you are welcome.
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|  12th August 2023, 09:00 PM | #12 | 
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			From another collector, I got the following photos. Total length: 225 cm. Length spearhead including sleeve: 45 cm. Length shaft: 180 cm. Unfortunately without extra information. | 
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