Three swords from Central Timor

Sajen · 4th July 2023, 05:15 PM

The handles.

Sajen · 6th July 2023, 08:41 AM

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milandro · 6th July 2023, 02:10 PM

the top one appears to be a repurposed Hembrug Dutch " Klewang"( the Army and Navy weapon still in used in the NL by the marechaussee and formerly used by the KNIL army)

Sajen · 6th July 2023, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by milandro

the top one appears to be a repurposed Hembrug Dutch " Klewang"( the Army and Navy weapon still in used in the NL by the marechaussee and formerly used by the KNIL army)

Yes, you are correct! It has a blade from a Hembrug klewang like I stated in #1. These swords Karel Sirag described in the book from Albert, "Traditional Weapons Of The Indonesian Archipelago" as "type c" have most of the time repurposed blades of European manufacture.
Thank you very much for the first comment!

Regards,
Detlef

milandro · 6th July 2023, 04:39 PM

cheers , sorry I have missed that part

Sajen · 6th July 2023, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by milandro

cheers , sorry I have missed that part

No need to say "sorry"! I am glad you got the ball rolling!

Interested Party · 11th July 2023, 01:54 PM

I'm sorry to see these haven't created more discussion. I wish I had something to add as I find these interesting. Did the culture use straight blades as well?

Maurice · 10th February 2025, 04:50 PM

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Nice Timor swords Detlef,

But I'm more attracted to the Timorese 'Surik' kind of swords, from the 'Antoni' tribe.
And if they have an old VOC blade, than I can't resist them.

Kind regards,
Maurice

Sajen · 10th February 2025, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurice

Nice Timor swords Detlef,

But I'm more attracted to the Timorese 'Surik' kind of swords, from the 'Antoni' tribe.
And if they have an old VOC blade, than I can't resist them.

Hi Maurice,

Wow, a great sword from Pantar (my personal guess)! I prefer these swords also but they are rare and most of the time very expensive.
But when I could choose a sword from your display I would prefer the pade in up!

Best regards,
Detlef

Maurice · 10th February 2025, 07:13 PM

Hi Detlef,

Thank you.
I've had several pades in the past, but I kept this 'Tawu' because of the typical Celebes 'Sangori' carved motif on top of the hilt (where the endcap usually is), which I never had seen before.
I would not be able to choose between one or the other. I like them both equally!
I don't want to 'hack' your threat, but here a photo (2 photos

) of the carving on the hilt.

Sajen · 10th February 2025, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurice

Thank you.
I've had several pades in the past, but I kept this 'Tawu' because of the typical Celebes 'Sangori' carved motif on top of the hilt (where the endcap usually is), which I never had seen before.
I would not be able to choose between one or the other. I like them both equally!
I don't want to 'hack' your threat, but here a photo (2 photos

) of the carving on the hilt.

Very nice pade Maurice and like you I've never seen such a carving at this place. I own four pade but not one has a carving at this place. Nice feature.
And for sure the surik is a beautiful sword as well!

Regards,
Detlef

10th February 2025, 07:13 PM	#10
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,458	Hi Detlef, Thank you. I've had several pades in the past, but I kept this 'Tawu' because of the typical Celebes 'Sangori' carved motif on top of the hilt (where the endcap usually is), which I never had seen before. I would not be able to choose between one or the other. I like them both equally! I don't want to 'hack' your threat, but here a photo (2 photos ) of the carving on the hilt. Attached Images

4th July 2023, 05:15 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,327	The handles. Attached Images

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Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,327	Over 100 views and not one single comment?

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milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 497	the top one appears to be a repurposed Hembrug Dutch " Klewang"( the Army and Navy weapon still in used in the NL by the marechaussee and formerly used by the KNIL army)

6th July 2023, 04:39 PM	#5
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 497	cheers , sorry I have missed that part

11th July 2023, 01:54 PM	#7
Interested Party Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Eastern Sierra Posts: 509	I'm sorry to see these haven't created more discussion. I wish I had something to add as I find these interesting. Did the culture use straight blades as well?