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Old 22nd May 2023, 09:25 PM   #1
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I oil my krises regularly but I don't keep them in a plastic foil and they don't seem to bother, must be the Dutch wind.
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Old 22nd May 2023, 10:20 PM   #2
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Milandro, I'm talking lengthy periods of time, & large numbers of keris & other sharp pointy things that need to be looked after, I'm also talking about somebody --- me --- whose business is the identification of risk and the management of that risk.

If I only had a limited number of keris & etc to take care of, I probably would not do what I need to do for the large numbers of keris I have held during my lifetime.

If we can regularly examine & oil our blades, that is probably sufficient, but not all of us can, and I have stored keris & tombak in extremely adverse conditions for several years using my own controls as recommended, with no adverse effect on the blades, whereas other keris & etc in the same room, at the same time, needed cleaning & staining when I was able to get back to them.

As I have said:- objectives & expectations, and these factors can change from person to person.
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Old 24th May 2023, 12:48 PM   #3
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Thank you all for the useful responses. Once I have the blade in better condition I shall post more pictures.

Milandro, thank you for the indentification. Regarding the friction mount cloth around the tang (I assume), is that something you would remove before the long treatment with vinegar?
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Old 24th May 2023, 01:03 PM   #4
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Yes.
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Old 24th May 2023, 06:38 PM   #5
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Milandro, thank you for the indentification. Regarding the friction mount cloth around the tang (I assume), is that something you would remove before the long treatment with vinegar?

Certainly, the cloth can be disposed of, it is meant to be replaced. Sometimes some kisses have human hair or animal hair instead of cloth. Some people believe this has some spiritual significance linking the kris to the maker or the the owner or someone related to the owner. You could remove the hair and try to re-use it if this is the case but it is your choice.
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Old 24th May 2023, 08:39 PM   #6
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Certainly, the cloth can be disposed of, it is meant to be replaced. Sometimes some kisses have human hair or animal hair instead of cloth. Some people believe this has some spiritual significance linking the kris to the maker or the the owner or someone related to the owner. You could remove the hair and try to re-use it if this is the case but it is your choice.
I have encountered a few keris with hair wrapped around the pesi in the past. My own approach in these cases is to replace that hair, though i do always preserve it in a special container. I do believe the purpose of using human hair is indeed an attempt to form a bond between the owner and the keris. But that person is no longer the owner of the keris, i am. So in my view it is not a bond i would wish to keep activated.
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Old 25th May 2023, 12:45 AM   #7
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I have encountered a few keris with hair wrapped around the pesi in the past. My own approach in these cases is to replace that hair, though i do always preserve it in a special container. I do believe the purpose of using human hair is indeed an attempt to form a bond between the owner and the keris. But that person is no longer the owner of the keris, i am. So in my view it is not a bond i would wish to keep activated.
about using hair around pesi, recently someone tried to sell me an old simple Balinese keris and he told me it was used in war and that the hair of that warrior's wife is used for good luck.
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Old 25th May 2023, 01:59 AM   #8
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I've heard many similar stories Anthony, but I do not know what is actually true.
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