Modern keris bethok

A. G. Maisey · 13th April 2023, 06:24 PM

What we are looking at here in your example David is a log that has been milled to use both sapwood and heartwood;- the sapwood is light coloured and the heartwood is dark coloured.

Only the heartwood of any of the ebony trees is valuable, if we see only the sapwood, it is very difficult to know exactly what we are looking at.

David · 14th April 2023, 02:53 AM

Yes Alan. That’s why I wrote “I can’t be sure if this is that wood or not.”

A. G. Maisey · 14th April 2023, 01:45 PM

Yes, understood.

milandro · 7th July 2023, 09:45 AM

I too have purchased a modern bethok.

The shape really appeals to me and I came across one which was not consumed by acids to pretend age and simply showed a nicely made (in my opinion) kris with a simple pamor which I believe could be called Pulo Tirto.

milandro · 26th July 2023, 02:51 PM

I really had expected at least some comment about my modern betook, granted it is as new as they come but stil probably deserved at least some comment

Jean · 27th July 2023, 09:30 AM

I have personally not much to say about these modern pieces, only that the pamor does not look typical of Pulo Tirto (islands in the sea) IMO, and the dapur is odd....
Regards

milandro · 27th July 2023, 09:38 AM

well the Dhapur, color and pamor (whatever it is) is what attracted me.

I find it very nicely styled and I particularly appreciate the fact that they decided not to immerse it in acid to give it a pretend ancient look. I wanted to have precisely such thing and a German dealer in Denpasar whom I had asked to be on the lookout showed me this. It was not too expensive so I decided to acquire it.

Thank you for your comment Jean, maybe others would care to join in the conversation

7th July 2023, 09:45 AM	#4
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 498	I too have purchased a modern bethok. The shape really appeals to me and I came across one which was not consumed by acids to pretend age and simply showed a nicely made (in my opinion) kris with a simple pamor which I believe could be called Pulo Tirto. Attached Images Last edited by milandro; 7th July 2023 at 11:24 AM.

13th April 2023, 06:24 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	What we are looking at here in your example David is a log that has been milled to use both sapwood and heartwood;- the sapwood is light coloured and the heartwood is dark coloured. Only the heartwood of any of the ebony trees is valuable, if we see only the sapwood, it is very difficult to know exactly what we are looking at.

14th April 2023, 02:53 AM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	Yes Alan. That’s why I wrote “I can’t be sure if this is that wood or not.”

14th April 2023, 01:45 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	Yes, understood.

26th July 2023, 02:51 PM	#5
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 498	I really had expected at least some comment about my modern betook, granted it is as new as they come but stil probably deserved at least some comment

27th July 2023, 09:30 AM	#6
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	I have personally not much to say about these modern pieces, only that the pamor does not look typical of Pulo Tirto (islands in the sea) IMO, and the dapur is odd.... Regards

27th July 2023, 09:38 AM	#7
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 498	well the Dhapur, color and pamor (whatever it is) is what attracted me. I find it very nicely styled and I particularly appreciate the fact that they decided not to immerse it in acid to give it a pretend ancient look. I wanted to have precisely such thing and a German dealer in Denpasar whom I had asked to be on the lookout showed me this. It was not too expensive so I decided to acquire it. Thank you for your comment Jean, maybe others would care to join in the conversation