Constantin Brâncoveanu's sabres - Săbiile lui Constantin Brâncoveanu

Teisani · 7th March 2023, 06:48 PM

Thank you for your contributions.
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I found Marcu Beza's paper: Noui urme romanesti la manastirea Sinai si la Ierusalim. In: Boabe de grau, An V, 1935, nr. 9, p. 552-565.
http://restitutio.bcub.ro/handle/123456789/763

Problem is, nobody knows how the sabre ended up at the Holy Tomb monastery treasury. Beza, working with the assumption that it trully is Brâncoveanu's sabre, postulates that it may have been a gift given to the patriarch, on one of his many visits to the Wallachian prince. The handle is made of ivory, according to him.

Teisani · 7th March 2023, 07:26 PM

And Nicolae Iorga's article on the Stockholm sabre can be read here: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...escoperite.pdf
Can anyone please help with translating the greek writting in the last page?

TVV · 8th March 2023, 06:07 PM

These swords with the Virgin Mary medallion have been subject to a lot of speculation. Rivkin, in his "A Study of the Eastern Sword", discusses them and his hypothesis is that these originated during the Great Turkish War and distributed as gifts to potential Holy League allies in Eastern Europe, particularly Russia. If true, this explains why there are inscriptions in different languages - those would have varied based on the intended recipients.

Teisani · 13th March 2023, 09:17 PM

One more. Seems rehilted since thw scabbard is typically Ottoman. https://www.landesmuseum.de/videogui...ser-und-sultan

awdaniec666 · 15th March 2023, 11:16 PM

Thank you for this superb information!
The Royal Armouries in the UK host a saber with a very similar blade and decoration put on to a typical Polish L-guard. I had to promise them to not publish pictures however..

Teisani · 16th March 2023, 07:28 AM

Hello Patrick. Very interesting to hear about that L-guard sabre. Since you can't post pictures, can you at least describe the blade decoration, such as: does it match exactly the text on any other blade already posted here? If not, is it Greek/Latin/Cyrillic, can you type the text, are there candles, etc?

Regards,

awdaniec666 · 16th March 2023, 01:39 PM

Hi Teisani,

The inventory number seems to be B.0937.1. They will certainly send you images on request.

There is a arch-ornament with two candles underneath it and a depiction of Maria and infant-Jesus in a circle. All in gold and on the tierce. No text. The blade itself appears to be around 1650, in Hungarian manner and of high quality.

7th March 2023, 06:48 PM	#1
Teisani Member Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: Romania Posts: 314	Thank you for your contributions. ============================ I found Marcu Beza's paper: Noui urme romanesti la manastirea Sinai si la Ierusalim. In: Boabe de grau, An V, 1935, nr. 9, p. 552-565. http://restitutio.bcub.ro/handle/123456789/763 Problem is, nobody knows how the sabre ended up at the Holy Tomb monastery treasury. Beza, working with the assumption that it trully is Brâncoveanu's sabre, postulates that it may have been a gift given to the patriarch, on one of his many visits to the Wallachian prince. The handle is made of ivory, according to him. Attached Images

7th March 2023, 07:26 PM	#2
Teisani Member Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: Romania Posts: 314	And Nicolae Iorga's article on the Stockholm sabre can be read here: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...escoperite.pdf Can anyone please help with translating the greek writting in the last page? Attached Images

13th March 2023, 09:17 PM	#4
Teisani Member Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: Romania Posts: 314	One more. Seems rehilted since thw scabbard is typically Ottoman. https://www.landesmuseum.de/videogui...ser-und-sultan Attached Images Last edited by Teisani; 13th March 2023 at 09:31 PM.

8th March 2023, 06:07 PM	#3
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,660	These swords with the Virgin Mary medallion have been subject to a lot of speculation. Rivkin, in his "A Study of the Eastern Sword", discusses them and his hypothesis is that these originated during the Great Turkish War and distributed as gifts to potential Holy League allies in Eastern Europe, particularly Russia. If true, this explains why there are inscriptions in different languages - those would have varied based on the intended recipients.

15th March 2023, 11:16 PM	#5
awdaniec666 Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Central Europe Posts: 174	Thank you for this superb information! The Royal Armouries in the UK host a saber with a very similar blade and decoration put on to a typical Polish L-guard. I had to promise them to not publish pictures however..

16th March 2023, 07:28 AM	#6
Teisani Member Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: Romania Posts: 314	Hello Patrick. Very interesting to hear about that L-guard sabre. Since you can't post pictures, can you at least describe the blade decoration, such as: does it match exactly the text on any other blade already posted here? If not, is it Greek/Latin/Cyrillic, can you type the text, are there candles, etc? Regards,

16th March 2023, 01:39 PM	#7
awdaniec666 Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Central Europe Posts: 174	Hi Teisani, The inventory number seems to be B.0937.1. They will certainly send you images on request. There is a arch-ornament with two candles underneath it and a depiction of Maria and infant-Jesus in a circle. All in gold and on the tierce. No text. The blade itself appears to be around 1650, in Hungarian manner and of high quality.